Prabhupāda: Our government, they have to manage so many people. The Nāgas... I learned it from Bhāgavatam.
Dr. Patel: Nagas come from Assam, no?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Arjuna married the Naga king's daughter. And he had a son.
Dr. Patel: Babhruvāhana.
Prabhupāda: No, Babhruvāhana is Manipur.
Dr. Patel: Ilavan.
Prabhupāda: Ilavan, yes.
Dr. Patel: Ilavan was the son of Nagas.
Prabhupāda: Nagakanya.
Dr. Patel: Ilavan, Abhimanyu and Babhruvāhana. These were the outstanding sons of Arjuna.
Gurudāsa: He was a great fighter?
Prabhupāda: Yes, they were kṣatriyas.
Dr. Patel: He did in the war.
Prabhupāda: Babhruvāhana was adopted by his grandfather. That is called putrikā, putrikā-putra, "daughter's son adopted as son." So our Dr. Svarūpa Dāmodara belongs to this family, Babhruvāhana family. His title is Singh. That means kṣatriya. And they are Vaiṣṇavas for the last five thousand years or more than that.
Dr. Patel: Now all the Nagas have turned into Christians. Only fifty years back they were headhunters. Fifty years back Nagas of Assam were more or less like cannibals.
Prabhupāda: No, the headhunters means they were killing?
Dr. Patel: Yes. They would take revenge by cutting the head of the enemy.
Prabhupāda: Oh, that is... Why they are blamed? Everyone is doing that. (laughter)
Dr. Patel: Africans also do that.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Gurudāsa: Their uniqueness is that they display the head on a spear.
Prabhupāda: Oh. Any head.
Dr. Patel: And they dance, even as they do in Africa. Nagas are very much civilized now.
Prabhupāda: Civilized?
Dr. Patel: In this way...
Prabhupāda: No, they were civilized. Otherwise...
Dr. Patel: Western civilization, I mean to say.
Prabhupāda: Otherwise, how Arjuna could marry?
Dr. Patel: Fourth-class civilization. In Naga races there is polyandry, sir. One woman can...
Prabhupāda: Still there are, in Himalayan hills. One woman has got five husbands.
Dr. Patel: Because they have got shortage of men.
Prabhupāda: Whatever it may be, the system is there. I think in America also.
Dr. Patel: No, no. America, secret polyandry.
Prabhupāda: Whatever it may be, one woman may have more than one husband. Is it not?
Gurudāsa: Sometimes. Not legally.
Dr. Patel: That is why I said "secret" polyandry. This is official. Some of the Himalayan and Katwa, they... One brother marries and then she becomes the wife of two, three brothers. That is legal.
Prabhupāda: No... In here also the system was if one is childless, husband is dead or could not produce, she can take help of the husband's brothers. Devareṇa sutotpati: with the help of husband's brother to get child.
Trivikrama: But in Kali-yuga that's been...
Prabhupāda: That is forbidden. Kalau pañca vivarjayet (CC Adi 17.164).
Dr. Patel: And these children were raised (indistinct). Very scientific way.