Prabhupāda: Yes, sat-saṅga.
Dr. Patel: Is satāṁ saṅga? It is sat-saṅga.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: Even good literature saṅga is also sat-saṅga, is it not?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes.
Dr. Patel: So I am.... In the morning I do your sat-saṅga, and afterwards I do the sat-saṅga of Bhāgavata and Bhagavad-gītā. So it is a continuous sat-saṅga. So don't say I am not doing it. (laughs)
Prabhupāda: No, no, you are not.... I don't say that you are rascal.
Dr. Patel: No, about sat-saṅga.
Prabhupāda: Rather, I think myself rascal because.... (laughter)
Dr. Patel: I say about sat-saṅga. Let us turn the issue.
Prabhupāda: I could not draw you in my temple.
Dr. Patel: You have drawn me lot, but still, you are dragging me by leg nowadays.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Into our hospital.
Indian: (Hindi)
Dr. Patel: I think I am not fit to be with you, so far I consider myself.
Prabhupāda: Everyone is.
Dr. Patel: I must correct myself and all my defects. Otherwise I would pollute you. (break) (laughter) I will become after sixty-five.
Prabhupāda: You are fifteen years late already. (laughter)
Dr. Patel: I must follow you. How much late you were? I will come after you. (break) ...you think sir, that is more important than...
Prabhupāda: No, no.
Dr. Patel: You must have the clothing in the internal side.
Prabhupāda: No, clothing is.... Anāśritaḥ karma-phalaṁ kāryaṁ karma karoti yaḥ ...sa sannyāsī (BG 6.1). It is not the clothing. Clothing is not.... Sa ...yogī ca na niragnir na cākriyaḥ. (Hindi) And continually doing that mahā-pāpa. (break) ...narādhama.
Dr. Patel: Because they are māyayāpahṛta-jñānā.
Prabhupāda: Yes. It means they have no knowledge.
Dr. Patel: Māyā has taken away their vision, their sense of understanding, sense of.... What do you call, sense of understanding or sense of...?
Prabhupāda: Sense of reality.
Dr. Patel: Reality. I was trying to say that word, reality. Āsuraṁ bhāvam āśritaḥ (BG 7.15). But today the whole world is practically asura.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) ...is a word declared to the asuras. You see? Therefore everyone is our enemy. Nobody likes us, because a declaration of war against the asura... And we are fighting with some tiny soldiers, that's all. And they are very strong. (aside:) Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya. Thank you. Jaya. (break) ...we don't want who says that "Why you are searching after God? The gods are loitering in the street." Of course, it is in higher sense, but you cannot say respectively(?), "Everyone is God." Maybe.... (Hindi)
Dr. Patel: Now we must not.... (Hindi)
Prabhupāda: That very word suggests that he is not to that stage where he can see Nārāyaṇa everywhere.