Brahmananda: "I want to fight for Hare Krsna."
Prabhupada: That is wanted. (laughs) That is wanted. We want that.
Tamala Krsna: This man is very prominent, Harvey Cox. He's the most prominent theologian, I think, in the United States, or one of the . . .
Brahmananda: Harvard.
Tamala Krsna: Very big man. He is very active. He's organizing everything, he and that Dean Kelly. What is his position?
Satsvarupa: He's National Council of Churches.
Tamala Krsna: Yes. He's the head of the National Council of Churches, this Dean Kelly, and he is a very big proponent of our movement also.
Prabhupada: So Krsna is sending so many men.
Tamala Krsna: Oh, yes. We're going to win. But actually it is a dangerous situation, how the government is becoming so callous in the United States.
Brahmananda: They compare it to Russia, because in Russia the system is if someone goes against . . .
Prabhupada: State.
Brahmananda: . . . the state, they put him in a mental hospital. They don't put him in jail but in a mental hospital.
Prabhupada: And kill him.
Brahmananda: And they give . . . practically kill him. So they're saying now the same thing is happening in America.
Bhavananda: It's interesting, Srila Prabhupada, though, that the devotees didn't want to mention Krsna's name.
Prabhupada: Hmm?
Bhavananda: The devotees . . .
Prabhupada: Being afraid of.
Hari-sauri: That's like when you first made it International Society for Krishna Consciousness.
Prabhupada: Yes. So they have taken it very seriously, to stop.
Tamala Krsna: Oh, yes. Because their own young children, the future of the country, are joining these cults.
Brahmananda: Two states have now passed laws that making this deprogramming legal, and also they have given tax exemption. That means the government is giving . . .
Prabhupada: Support.
Tamala Krsna: Support.
Brahmananda: And they're even talking that maybe the government will give financial grant.
Prabhupada: Yes. They are afraid that these Krsna conscious men may capture the government.
Tamala Krsna: Yes. Some of them are saying like that: "This organization, the Krsna con . . . is a very powerful organization, and their ambition is to take over the world."
Prabhupada: (laughs) And that's a fact. (laughter) Well, let us see. (laughter) It is a fight between Krsna and demon. Let us do our duty and chant Hare Krsna. Everything will be all right. There are so many demons. Prahlada Maharaja was five-years-old boy, and his father, such a big demon. The fight was at home. Still, Prahlada Maharaja gained victory. Similarly, you are all Prahlada Maharaja, (laughs) and your fathers are great demons. The fight is there. Chant Hare Krsna. Depend on Krsna. You'll come out victorious. Nrsimha-deva will come. So (laughing) the poison of Krsna consciousness is acting now. That is good. If we come out victorious, then it will be a great victory.
Tamala Krsna: And we're going to. All of the intelligent people acknowledge. All the newspapers, everybody who we talked to confidentially, they all say, "You cannot lose this case." Everyone is surprised why that D.A. is pushing this case.
Prabhupada: He's earning salary. That's all.
Hari-sauri: Trying to make a name for himself. That's all.
Prabhupada: Money.
Tamala Krsna: Because it's a foolish . . .
Prabhupada: Unless he makes devices and talks very overintelligently, how he'll get money? Just like the so-called scientist says and doctor says, big, big jugglery of words, and they get money.