Indian lady (3): Temporary they give hormone.
Prabhupāda: What is this temporary? Temporary means...
Indian lady (3): Temporary they get to be God.
Prabhupāda: One Marwari man, very rich man, he eighty years old, he wanted to change the hormones to remain...
Indian lady (3): Yes. That was in Indore.
Prabhupāda: Indore, yes.
Indian lady (3): Kukumcha.
Prabhupāda: Kukumcha. Yes, you know.
Indian lady (3): He got the glands from the monkey.
Prabhupāda: Just see. But where is now Kukumcha?
Indian lady (3): Now he is no more.
Prabhupāda: So Kukum, finished. (laughter) Kukum means order. So he thought... Kukum means order.
Indian lady (3): He was very rich. He used to...
Prabhupāda: I know that. In Calcutta, Kukumcha. This firm was very big. One of the richest Marwari. So eighty years old, he wanted to change the hormone to become young. Not only... There are many Marwaris. You know the (name witheld)? (name witheld)? His elder brother, (name witheld). His only business is to keep one wife and have a big establishment. He has got four, five wives—one Bengali, one U.P., one Marwari, one this—and each wife's establishment not less than ten thousand per month. And his business is morning to this wife and evening to this wife and noon to this wife, this wife. And he is old man. The wives do not care for him, and she is doing everything whatever, with the secretary. That's all. It is going on. I have seen. I was guest in his home, and this rascal is doing this. He is earning money, black market, white market, this mar... At any cost, and spending like this. That's all. There are many persons. Oh, in Europe also, the same thing. In Paris very, very old men, seventy-five years old, eighty years, they go to the night club. Entrance fee fifty dollar, then pay for the woman, wine. Spend few hours and spend two hundred, three hundred, five hundred dollars-go home. Then tranquilizer pill and sleep. This is going on. Therefore mūḍha.