Satsvarūpa: Just like one man, on this point about the books, he came up and said, "Where does it say in Hinduism that you should harass people to sell them a book?"
Prabhupāda: It is not Hinduism. It is science.
Satsvarūpa: "Where does it say in your books...?" Then he would say, "Where does it say in your books, in your science, that you should harass people?"
Prabhupāda: Harass? What is the harassing?
Satsvarūpa: He claimed because...
Prabhupāda: You are harassing me. Then everything is harassing. Why you have brought me to the law court? It is harassing to me. Why you are harassing me?
Satsvarūpa: Because you are disturbing people, taking their money.
Prabhupāda: So you are also disturbing my books. The same, I can say. What is written in my books, I am doing. You are disturbing. You are harassing me.
Satsvarūpa: But where does it say in your books that you should... I see.
Prabhupāda: Yes, what it says in the... You read the books. You'll see that we are exactly.
Gargamuni: We're selling our book. We have every right to sell religious book.
Satsvarūpa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: And they're being accepted by higher circle.
Gurukṛpā: Kṛṣṇa says, sarva-dharmān parityajya (BG 18.66).
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Gurukṛpā: We're just saying the same thing. He says more than buy a book.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Gurukṛpā: He says, "Surrender everything."
Prabhupāda: Everything. Written in the book, and we're doing that. Take this stand. More and more agitation there will be; our books will be advertised. The people will be curious to know. "What is in the book? Let us purchase?"
Gargamuni: Yes. We should utilize this case as a means of advertising your books.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Gargamuni: Because we are getting nationwide coverage.
Prabhupāda: "These are our statements, sir." That... You have piled this book. You have one photograph, like a mountain. You remember that picture?
Hari-śauri: Yes. On the back of the BTG there's a big stack of books.
Prabhupāda: According to... Oh, the statement must be read, argued, then judgment. Point to point.
Hari-śauri: No, we can defeat them on every point.
Prabhupāda: Kṛṣṇa says, sarva-dharmān parityajya (BG 18.66). Now the question "Why he shall give up?" "Yes, you must give up." Then argument. Go on for three years. Then whole thing will come—what is God, what is creation, what is your position, why you should you surrender, and so on, so on, so on.
Hari-śauri: Everything. All the arguments you've been giving us, now this is a good opportunity to use them all.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Just like the judgment was given Shylock, the Jew. When he was persistent that "I shall take one pound flesh from the chest," no, he said, "No, I cannot touch that." Then the judgment was, "Yes, you can take, only one pound. If it is one hundredth part of an ounce, it is more, then you'll be hanged. Or even it is less, you'll be hanged. Exactly one pound you have."
Hari-śauri: And only flesh. No blood.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Then he was trapped. So we have to do like that. Sate sārtham samācaret.(?) If the other party is tricky, you should be also tricky. Why you should be so plain? And this is quite legal, that "This is our statement, these eighty-four books. We have got others also, but some of them are here. So, my lord, you read this statement. Let us argue." Then it will be read. They have to. They cannot say, "No, I am not going to take any..." That is illegal. Whatever I say, he has to take. Then there is argument. First of all statement. The court procedure is: I have charged you with something. Court will ask you, "What you have got to say against these charges?" So you'll submit your statement. Then both the statements, the court's duty is to study and give the judgment. This is the law. So they have charged us with something. We give our statement. "Now you study and argue, and then give your judgment." Hm? What do you think?
Satsvarūpa: We should introduce the books as much as possible.
Prabhupāda: Yes.