Prabhupāda: Yes. "You do not know. You come to us and learn how to trust, how to know. And if you speak lies, that you do not know what is God, that is a different thing. Then you should be punished." People should be given chance of believing, trusting in God. They have declared. So it is their duty. The state duty is to see how people are trusting. That is state's duty. Constitution says that nobody can steal. Is it not state's duty that people are not becoming thieves and stealing? Is it not the duty of the state? Similarly, if you, if you have accepted this, that "In God We Trust," you must see that everyone trusts in God. And that is scientifically, not sentimentally. It is the duty of the state to see.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Just like in an empty slogan. The slogan is empty.
Prabhupāda: So that is not required. It must be practical. Empty slogan has no meaning.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: The way it's written . . .
Devotee: Why was, why was Lord Rāma letting Rāvaṇa live in Laṅkā?
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Devotee: Why was He permitting him to live there? He was irreligious. He did not trust in God. Why was Lord Rāma letting him . . .?
Prabhupāda: No, no. He was killed therefore. He was not allowed to live there. Therefore Rāmacandra went there to kill him. "You rascal. You must be killed." Why do you say that he was allowed?
Devotee: Well . . .
Prabhupāda: He was not allowed.
Devotee: For some time. For some time.
Prabhupāda: For sometimes every thief flourishes. That is another thing. But he must be punished.
Devotee: Hmm. He was punished.
Prabhupāda: You can cheat for some time everyone, but you cannot be allowed to cheat everyone for all the time. That is not possible. (break) . . . law. Therefore Lord Rāmacandra could create millions of Sītā. So the purpose was to kill this atheist.