Prabhupāda: Māyā is nothing. It is a forgetfulness. That's all. It has no existence. Forgetfulness, it does not stand. But so long it is there, it is very troublesome.
Sudāmā: I've been asked a question by some devotees sometimes that they don't feel happy. So even if they are unhappy mentally, should . . . they still should continue in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. I tell them, even if one is unhappy . . .
Prabhupāda: But you should show example. If you show example different way, how they will follow you?
Sudāmā: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Example is better than precept. Why you are living outside?
Sudāmā: Well, I . . . (break)
Prabhupāda: . . . last time I was so much deteriorated in health, I had to leave this place. That does not mean I'll leave the Society. I went to India and recuperated. Or came to London. That's all right. So health may be sometimes . . . but that does not mean we shall give up the Society. If my health is unsuitable here, I go. I have a hundred centers. And you'll not go out of this universe (laughs) for your health recouping. You have to remain within the universe. Then why do you go out of the Society?
(break) . . . Śrī Narottama dāsa Ṭhākura. We have to live with devotees. Why I left my family? Because they were not devotees. Therefore I come. Otherwise, in old age, I would have been comfortable. No. We should not live with the nondevotees, may be family men or anyone. Just like Mahārāja Vibhīṣaṇa: because his brother was not devotee, he left . . . left. Came, came to Rāmacandra. Vibhīṣaṇa. You know that?
Sudāmā: Yes.
Hṛdayānanda: So Prabhupāda, it says that a sannyāsī should live alone. That means only with devotees.
Prabhupāda: Who . . .? Where it is said sannyāsī should live alone?
Hṛdayānanda: I mean, sometimes in your books.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Hṛdayānanda: Sometimes in your books. So that means with devotees?
Prabhupāda: In general, sannyāsī may live alone. But sannyāsī's duty is to preach.
Sudāmā: That I don't ever want to stop.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Sudāmā: I don't ever want to stop preaching.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Well, preaching, you cannot manufacture preaching. You must do preaching according to the principles ordered by your spiritual master. You cannot manufacture your own way of preaching. That is required. There must be some leader. Under the leadership. Yasya prasādād bhagavat . . . (Śrī Śrī Gurv-aṣṭaka).
Why it is said? Everywhere, in the office, there is some immediate boss. So you have to please him. That is service. Suppose in office, in a department there is office superintendent. And if you do in your own way, "Yes, I'm doing my business," and the office superintendent is not pleased, do you think that kind of service is nice? No.
Similarly, we have got . . . everywhere we have got immediate boss. So we must work. That is systematic. If everyone manufactures, invents his own way of life, then there must be chaos.
Sudāmā: Yeah, that's true.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Now we are world organization. There is spiritual side, and there is material side also. That is not material side. That is also spiritual side, means systematic management. Otherwise how it will be done? Just like Gaurasundara sold the house, and there is no trace of the money. What is this? He did not ask him, anyone. He sold the house, and where is the money there is no trace.