Prabhupāda: If you respect spiritual master as God, then you must offer him the facilities of God. Otherwise how you treat him as God? Simply in mind? In action also.
Anne Jackson: I'm sorry. What was the last you said?
Prabhupāda: If the spiritual master is treated as God, so he must show, practically show, that he is treating as God. So God travels by golden car. So if the spiritual master is offered ordinary motorcar, so still it is not sufficient, because he has to be treated like God. What is this motorcar for God? (laughter) They are still deficient. If God comes to your home, will you bring Him in ordinary motorcar or you would arrange for a golden car, if you treat him as God? So your point is that they offer me nice motorcar, but I say that is not sufficient. That is still lacking to treat him as God. Be practical.
Anne Jackson: Yesterday I met a devotee from New York who said that there were many people present at the festival from other planets, and that you could see them. Is that true?
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes. Everyone can see. If you have eyes, you can see also. But if you have no eyes, therefore you are envious because they have offered a nice motorcar. So you have to make your eyes to see. A blind man cannot see. The eyes are to be treated how to see.
Anne Jackson: Is this true also of your other senses?
Prabhupāda: Every senses. If you want to see something, you must be trained up how to see. Like a scientist is seeing something through the microscope, and you want to see with naked eyes. How it is possible to see? You must adopt the process to see. Then you can see everything.
Anne Jackson: I have just one more question, and that is also from an outsider's point of view. It appears to me that one of the most difficult aspects of Kṛṣṇa consciousness for someone to accept who's been brought up outside of that point of view is the Deities . . .
Prabhupāda: The Deities?
Anne Jackson: . . . and the idea that they represent Kṛṣṇa. Could you talk a little bit about that?
Prabhupāda: Yes. At the present moment, because you are not trained up to see Kṛṣṇa, so Kṛṣṇa kindly appears before you as you can see. You can see wood, stone. You cannot see what is spirit. Even you don't see yourself. You are thinking, "I am this body." But you are spirit soul. You are seeing your father and mother daily, and when the father or mother dies, you cry. Why you are crying? "Now my father has gone." Where is your father gone? He is lying here. Why do you say he is gone? What is that thing which is gone? Why you say: "My father is gone," although lying on the bed? You have seen daily your father. Now you say: "My father is gone." So . . . but he is lying on the bed. So who has gone? What is your answer?
Anne Jackson: Where is God?
Jayatīrtha: Who has gone? If you see your dead father and you say that he is passed away, what has passed away?
Prabhupāda: Who is that father?
Anne Jackson: Only this material body is gone.
Prabhupāda: Material body is there, lying on the bed.