Prabhupāda: In the Twelfth Canto. I think Candragupta's name is also . . . the last emperor of India. (break) . . . fighting between the demons and the demigods, the demons brought mountain and it was in fire, the jungle, and it was split by dynamite, and the all the stones fell down on the enemies. Where is that war plan? Bring the mountain on the head of the enemies and split it by dynamite, and it will . . . (break) This information is there, that dynamite was there, and it was used for breaking mountains. Fighting was taking place. Not in this planet; upper planet.
Hari-śauri: This is in connection with the churning of the ocean?
Prabhupāda: Yes. (break)
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Is it actually possible for the demons to win?
Prabhupāda: Sometimes. When there is fighting, both the parties will have chance to win. What is this? (break)
Devotee (1): . . . degraded activity in the public parks. Fighting and intoxication and all kinds of nonsense. Just like animals. (break)
Devotee (2): And there were so many people that we decided that next weekend we'll come and distribute magazines and incense here.
Makhanlāl: In the Bhagavad-gītā, Eighteenth Chapter, fifty-fourth verse, brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā (BG 18.54), it says that the person in brahma-bhūtaḥ realization at once realizes the Supreme Brahman. If the devotee is situated on the platform of the brahma-bhūtaḥ, but he may not necessarily see everything as Brahman, does that mean that his realization is by intelligence and by his activity, or what does that mean?
Prabhupāda: Realization of spiritual identification.
Makhanlāl: Realization of spiritual life?
Prabhupāda: Identity.
Makhanlāl: Identity? (break) Brahman realization for the devotee in the beginning is just that he realizes his constitutional position as servant of Kṛṣṇa?
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is next. First of all that, "I am not this body." That is Brahman realization.
Makhanlāl: So we may only be partially situated in that realization in our present level of devotional service, in that . . .
Prabhupāda: You realize or not realize, if you remain on the platform, that is safer. (break) . . . in Kṛṣṇa's service, that is brahma-bhūtaḥ stage. (break)
Makhanlāl: . . . says that such a person never laments nor desires anything. So . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes. If you realize that you are servant of Kṛṣṇa, where is lamentation?
Makhanlāl: Due to māyā's influence, a devotee may sometimes materially lament.
Prabhupāda: That you have to struggle. Tapasā brahmacāryeṇa (SB 6.1.13). That is called tapasya. But if you stick to devotional service, māyā will not be able to touch you.
Makhanlāl: The māyā that harasses the devotee is just mental concoction, then? He should concentrate on just serving?
Prabhupāda: Māyā's harassing, that means you are not in devotional service. It is not concoction, it is fact.
Devotee (3): We're having a lot of trouble distributing books in the airports now.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: What is the difficulty?
Devotee (3): It just seems legal problems. People don't like us there.
Mādhavānanda: People are opposing more. As our movement grows more and more, people want to check.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Devotee (3): . . . trying to get it open in the terminals, and there's a possibility of maybe getting forty devotees inside the airport to distribute your books.
Prabhupāda: So, that is favorable. (break)
Dhṛṣṭadyumna: . . . so powerful, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that all over the country young men are running away from home. We have one fifteen-year-old boy, he left everything after getting a book in a parking lot. Another boy is a sculptor, an artist. He's also run away, seventeen years old. Just like Raghunātha dāsa Gosvāmī, once he was attracted by Lord Caitanya's movement, nothing could keep him at home. So all the young men of America, as they read your books, will come and join us.
Prabhupāda: Our books are prescribed as textbook in Hamburg University.