Śyāmasundara: Oh. There's some famous islands between England and Holland called the Jersey Islands. There's special milk comes from Jersey. Jersey milk, the best.
Prabhupāda: No. These Europeans, Americans, if they take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, they'll be more happy. That is assured. From all angles of vision—their family life, their political life, their social life, their cultural life, their religious life, their philosophical life, their scientific life—everything will be perfect.
Now you have to teach them. I can give you the ideas how they'll be happy. The rascals, they do not know why . . . they ask: "What is your specialness?" and "Just to teach you this. My only ambition is that you are . . ."
(aside) Oh, there is no water.
"You are supposed to be the most intelligent persons. So if you take, others will take." That is my aim.
So I have no distinction between East and West. They're thinking that East is conquering West by culture. That is their enviousness. (laughter) That is, they are afraid. Because the Britishers, they kept Indian culture suppressed so long because . . . (break) . . . amongst the Kṣatriya, kings, in special cases. Not for public. Among the Kṣatriyas.
And among the Vaiśyas, one day in a year, on Diwali to try one's luck. One day they will bet. Not amongst the Brāhmins or the Śūdras. Śūdras have no money to gamble, and Brāhmins prohibited. The Kṣatriyas, they are also allowed in special cases, and Vaiśyas were allowed to engage in gambling one day in a year. That means restricted.
Śyāmasundara: Boy, that system of dharma . . . we can start discussing it tomorrow in our philosophy class. It's just so perfect. Everything is . . .
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Whole plan is perfect.
Śyāmasundara: But the British systematically broke it down.
Prabhupāda: Because Lord Macaulay gave them in this study, they said that if you keep the Indians in their original culture, then they cannot be broken. Gandhi took that state: noncooperation. Don't cooperate with them. And then kill them.
Śyāmasundara: This man who wrote this book made an interesting comment. He said that after . . . or before the First World War, when the British were entering the First World War, they got the . . . they made a promise to the Indians that, "If you help us fight this war, then we will give you freedom afterwards."
Prabhupāda: They did not.
Śyāmasundara: They helped, but they didn't give them freedom. So Gandhi or the others, they took that Azad. "They have broken their promise, so now we can break our cooperation, noncooperation."
Prabhupāda: Yes. They actually expanded their empire they only won the two war by Indian cooperation. Therefore these big men like Attlee, when they thought that, "India is going out of our hand," so don't dream of our empire. Forget it. They voluntarily quit it.