Satsvarūpa: The main thing they usually say is that "kill" means murder. That man at Bhaktivedanta Manor, that priest, he said the original Hebrew, the word means "murder." So this is an instruction to mankind not to murder, but it is not . . . but they have other places in the scripture where they point out that the animal is allowed for man to eat. So they just were showing us their scriptures.
Prabhupāda: It is said it is "murder"?
Satsvarūpa: Yes that, "Thou shalt not murder." That it has been changed to "kill."
Prabhupāda: Originally it was "murder"?
Satsvarūpa: That is what that priest said to you in Bhaktivedanta Manor.
Prabhupāda: No, no, no. He may say. What was previously, we are not concerned. But you have left already this Jewish Old Testament. You have got New Testament. You are not Jewish. So why do you bring that Jewish for your defense? You have already rejected it.
Pañcadraviḍa: But they say: "We accept both Old and New Testament." The Christians do not say, "We only have New Testament." They say: "We accept the Old and the New."
Prabhupāda: Then why you have changed?
Akṣayānanda: Why you have changed? Yes.
Pañcadraviḍa: Because the Old Testament never mentions Christ, but the New Testament is all about Christ.
Prabhupāda: Then it is rejected. If you have changed the tenets of Old Testament, that means you have rejected.
Pañcadraviḍa: No, not changed. In Old Testament the Messiah, he is predicted, but activities of the Messiah, they are not given.
Prabhupāda: The question is the Old Testament, you say that there was the word "murder." Why you have changed? You accept Old Testament or reject?
Satsvarūpa: Except the statement should be "murder," he says.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Satsvarūpa: It should be "murder."
Prabhupāda: But why it is "kill"?
Pañcadraviḍa: Wrong translation.
Prabhupāda: Wrong translation.