Prabhupāda: But if one cannot execute in such a way, he can take little fruits. That's all.
Dr. Patel: (laughs) Shall we? (break) . . . Śṛnu me paramaṁ vacaḥ (BG 10.1).
Prabhupāda: Bhūya. He has already spoken so many important things; still, He wants to give information of further important part.
Dr. Patel: Yat te 'haṁ priyamāṇāya vakṣyāmi hita-kāmyayā (BG 10.1).
Prabhupāda: Yes. "Because these things are to be spoken to My dear devotees, priyamāṇāya, for the special benefit of the devotees, not for the ordinary man." Bhūya eva mahā-bāho (BG 10.1). Mahā-bāho, this word is used, "mighty-armed," who is very strong in devotional service. Mahā-bāho. Bhūya eva mahā-bāho śṛṇu me paramaṁ vacaḥ." Mahā-bāho: because you are My great devotee, therefore I am speaking further, very important subject matter." Next line?
- na me viduḥ sura-ganaḥ
- prabhavaṁ na maharṣayaḥ
- aham ādir hi devānāṁ
- maharṣīṇāṁ ca sarvaśaḥ
- (BG 10.2)
Prabhupāda: Yes. Even the . . . na me viduḥ sura-gaṇāḥ. Sura-gaṇāḥ means demigods, and what to speak of the rascals? How the rascals, simply by little educational qualification, can understand Kṛṣṇa?
Dr. Patel: Prabhavaṁ, the original, He said. Prabhavaṁ.
Prabhupāda: No. Prabhavaṁ means influence, influence. Prabhāva.
Dr. Patel: Aham ādir hi devānāṁ maharṣīṇāṁ ca sarvaśaḥ.
Prabhupāda: Now, just try to understand this. Na me viduḥ sura-gaṇāḥ (BG 10.2). (Hindi) . . . demigods, big, big demigods, they cannot understand Him. How the rascals with little education can understand? This is the meaning. Na me viduḥ sura-gaṇāḥ prabhavaṁ. How much influence . . . the maharṣayaḥ, big, big saintly ṛṣis also, they cannot understand. Aham ādir hi devānām. Devānām means the first devas: the Brahmā, Viṣṇu, Maheśvara. So Viṣṇu is He Himself. Even Lord Śiva, Lord Brahmā, they do not know. Devānām.
- yo mām ajam anādiṁ ca
- vetti loka-maheśvaram
- asamūḍhaḥ sa martyeṣu
- sarva-papaiḥ pramucyate
- (BG 10.3)
Prabhupāda: Yes, this is the understanding of Kṛṣṇa. Yo mām ajam. Ajam. "Because Kṛṣṇa appears as born of Vasudeva and Devaki . . ." That is mūrkha. He appears. He appears, ajo 'pi sann avyayātmā bhūtānām īśvaro 'pi san, sambhavāmi (BG 4.6). That is His extraordinary power. (aside) Aiye . . . but when one understands that He is aja, there is no birth of Kṛṣṇa . . . aja, and . . .?
Dr. Patel: Maheśvaram.
Prabhupāda: Maheśvaram, mahā īśvaram. There are īśvaras, but parameśvara, or mahā-īśvara, that is Kṛṣṇa.
Dr. Patel: Shall I read further?
- buddhir jñānam asammohaḥ
- kṣamā satyaṁ damaḥ śamaḥ
- sukhaṁ duḥkhaṁ bhavo 'bhāvo
- bhayaṁ cābhayam eva ca
- ahiṁsā samatā tuṣṭis
- tapo dānaṁ yaśo 'yaśaḥ
- bhavanti bhāvā bhūtānāṁ
- matta eva pṛthag-vidhāḥ
- (BG 10.4-5)
Prabhupāda: Yes. All these good qualities, they are also coming from Him. Matta eva.
Dr. Patel: Good and bad, all qualities.
Prabhupāda: Yes. There is no bad. There is nothing bad, but . . .
Dr. Patel: Bhava abhāva bhayaṁ ca abhayaṁ ca.
Prabhupāda: Bhayaṁ ca abhayaṁ ca, contradictory, yes.
Dr. Patel: Contradictory qualities.
Prabhupāda: That means all contradictions can be adjusted in Kṛṣṇa.
- maharṣayaḥ sapta pūrve
- catvāro manavas tathā
- mad-bhāvā mānasā jātā
- yeṣāṁ loke imāḥ prajāḥ
- (BG 10.6)
Prabhupāda: Yes. "The whole prajā, population, they are born of Me."
- etāṁ vibhūtiṁ yogaṁ ca
- mama yo vetti tattvataḥ
- so 'vikalpena yogena
- yujyate nātra saṁśayaḥ
- (BG 10.7)
Prabhupāda: Yes, tattvataḥ, to understand Kṛṣṇa tattvataḥ.
Dr. Patel: Rightly.
- ahaṁ sarvasya prabhavo
- mattaḥ sarvaṁ pravartate
- iti matvā bhajante māṁ
- budhā bhāva-samanvitāḥ
- (BG 10.8)
Prabhupāda: Yes. This is the actually essence of Bhagavad-gītā. Ahaṁ sarvasya prabhavo mattaḥ sarvaṁ pravartate: "I am the origin of everything." Ahaṁ sarvasya prabhavo and mattaḥ sarvam. Sarvam means including Brahmā, Viṣṇu, Maheśvara. Sarvam. Mattaḥ sarvaṁ pravartate iti matvā. One who understands this. Bhajante. So just . . . the bhajana is for whom? Iti matvā. When one understands that Kṛṣṇa is the origin of everything, even the original demigods, Brahmā, Viṣṇu, Maheśvara, when one understands perfectly this thing, then his bhajana is perfect.