Krishna Tiwari: I do not believe in the strict following of every word...
Prabhupāda: That's all right, that is your, that is your point of view, but that is not our point of view.
Krishna Tiwari: Well, right, we disagree on that one.
Śyāmasundara: You said once, in a court of law, if there are two points of view at the final judgment, it has to be judged by the results of which point of view. So if you, if you judge by the results of our process and his process which people are..., have attained to some kind of perfect understanding of themselves, some kind of satisfaction with life, you have to point to our process and say that ours gets the balance of favorable opinion, because in your process, no one has been made happy.
Krishna Tiwari: How does say that in your process, anybody has been made happy?
Prabhupāda: Everyone who follows Vedic injunctions, they're happy.
Devotee (1): You ask me.
Krishna Tiwari: You ask me. I'm very happy.
Prabhupāda: But you are happy with imperfect knowledge.
Krishna Tiwari: Oh, no. (laughing) Again it's the same thing.
Prabhupāda: You said, you said... No. You are happy with your imperfect education of an animal.
Krishna Tiwari: Everybody is.
Prabhupāda: Imperfect knowledge and happiness.
Krishna Tiwari: Only perfect can be then your superpower, which you're talking about. You cannot be perfect either.
Prabhupāda: No. no. I am not perfect, but I am following the perfect. That is...