Prabhupāda:
- prakṛteḥ kriyamāṇāni
- guṇaiḥ karmāṇi sarvaśaḥ
- ahaṅkāra-vimūḍhātmā
- kartāham iti manyate
- (BG 3.27)
You see. He's thinking falsely that he's kartā, he's God, he is īśvara.
Chandobhai: He cannot be īśvara.
Prabhupāda: That is...
Chandobhai: Īśvara is one only.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Chandobhai: There cannot be two īśvaras.
Prabhupāda: And, and, not only that. Bhrāmayan sarva-bhūtāni (BG 18.61). He's managing the business of all living entities. Bhrāmayan sarva-bhūtāni yantrārūḍhāni māyayā. That I was explaining the other day. Just see Kṛṣṇa's business, that He is situated in everyone's heart, and He's giving direction and managing all His affairs. And there are unlimited millions and tril... Not millions either. Unlimited. Without any number. He has to manage them. So how much busy He is! And that is... How is being done? Ekāṁśena sthito jagat (BG 10.42).
Chandobhai: Ekāṁśena His only one part of...
Prabhupāda: Only, only a part. That is Kṛṣṇa. And these rascals thinking, "Oh, Kṛṣṇa is as good as I am." Just see. The Māyāvādī rascals, they think like that, that "I am as good as Kṛṣṇa." "Kṛṣṇa played rāsa-līlā. Therefore I shall do."
Dr. Patel: These Māyāvādīs... Māyāvādī is one who thinks himself to be all in all.
Prabhupāda: Means rascal number one. "All in all, I am one," that is, means rascal number one.
Dr. Patel: How do you explain ahaṁ brahmāsmi?
Prabhupāda: You are by quality Brahman, spirit.
Dr. Patel: But not quantity.
Prabhupāda: No. Quantity. Just like if you take a drop of water of this... If the drop says, "I am the ocean," what is this nonsense? You are drop of water. Mamaivāṁśo jīva-bhūtaḥ (BG 15.7). That's right. That is nice.
Dr. Patel: Mamaivāṁśo jīva-bhūte, mamaivāṁśo jīva-loke, jīva-loke...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: Jīva-bhūtaḥ sanātanaḥ (BG 15.7).
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: Manaḥ ṣaṣṭhāni indriyāṇi...
Prabhupāda: So that the Māyāvādīs do not know. "Why aṁśa? I am the same. I am the whole." Manaḥ ṣaṣṭhānīndriyāṇi prakṛti-sthāni karṣati (BG 15.7). Therefore they are rotting in this material world, hard struggle for existence.
Dr. Patel: Śarīraṁ yad avāpnoti yac cāpy utkrāmatīśvaraḥ...
Prabhupāda: Ah. And that is going on, transmigration.
Chandobhai: ...gṛhītvaitāni saṁyāti vāyur gandhān ivāśayāt. How the body goes away?
Prabhupāda: Yes. According, according to the quality or the modes of nature, he has to change his body. This Māyāvāda philosophy has made the whole world atheist. They don't believe in God.
Dr. Patel: I think this, what do you call Māyāvāda philosophy is not... (break)
Prabhupāda: Māyāvādī was introduced...
Chandobhai: By Buddha.
Prabhupāda: ...by Śaṅkara.
Chandobhai: Śaṅkara and Jains mostly.
Prabhupāda: Māyāvāda...
Dr. Patel: Jains are, they are... They don't believe in God. Jains are... Their soul is as long as their body. If that leg is cut, the soul's leg is cut.
Prabhupāda: No. Without, without going to other philosophies, best thing is to stick to your own philosophy and try to understand.
Chandobhai: Yes, that is the best thing.
Prabhupāda: That is the best thing.
Chandobhai: Then you'll understand all the philosophies.
Prabhupāda: So you take the essence of all philosophies, Bhagavad-gītā.
Guest (1): Extract of every śāstra is Bhagavad-gītā.
Chandobhai: Not only that, you must speak your own philosophy.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Chandobhai: Ultimately, the goal is one, you see.
Dr. Patel: How you explain
- ūrdhva-mūlam adhah-śākham
- aśvatthaṁ prāhur avyayam
- chandāṁsi yasya parṇāni
- yas taṁ veda sa veda-vit
- (BG 15.1)
Prabhupāda: Ūrdhva-mūlam adhah-śākham. Have you got any experience, ūrdhva-mūlam adhah-śākham? Have you got any experience? The root is upside and the branches and the twigs downside.