Prabhupāda: (break) ...talked with many gentleman, lawyer. That Goldsmith, he was against war, but when I asked him, "Whether you are meat-eaters, killing animals?", "Yes, that is our food." So if the poor animals can become your food, the big nation can say, "The small nation is my food. I can kill them. We can kill them." Everyone can say. And that is happening like, "Might is right."
Revatīnandana: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Revatīnandana: Goldsmith? He's a lawyer or something in Los Angeles?
Prabhupāda: Hm, hm, hm. (Yes) No, not Los Angeles. New York.
Revatīnandana: Oh, this Gold, Martin... Some, his name was, in Los Angeles, Gold, Martin Gold.