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Kīrtanānanda: It would be nice for our community. It would be nice for the people who visit us so that they'd be able to see that "Ah, they're able to carry on with their gardening."
Prabhupāda: No. You also require some fruits for your existence also. Kṛṣṇa will like it.
Prabhupāda: Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, "All right. We shall start thousands of men playing mṛdaṅga, and we shall go to the house of Kazi. Let us see what can he do." So He went with many followers, and many followers playing mṛdaṅga, and Kazi became afraid that "The people have become agitated." So he fled away. Then the people began to create disturbance in his garden.
Prabhupāda: Yes, governor's house.
Haṁsadūta: It's surrounded just like a...
Prabhupāda: A big garden. Yes. That was viceroy's house. Now it is dilapidated. Otherwise, formerly it was very, very nice.
Prabhupāda: There was a rich man in Calcutta, Motilal Sill. He was so rich that... Every man has different circle in younger days. So he would see. If any of his friends did not possess a house in Calcutta, he would purchase house. He said that, "If people say, 'Oh, you are friend of Motilal Sill. You have no your own house?' what people will say about me? He must have his own house." He purchased house for him. He was very big man. And there are many incidences also like, a very noble story. Actually it was not long ago, say about hundred years ago. He would not see that any one of his associates, friends, does not possess a house in Calcutta. Another Kṛṣṇa's friend, Sudama also. (chuckles) He could not recognize his own place, how it had happened, palatial buildings, garden. In Kṛṣṇa, you have not read Sudama?
Yadurāṇī: So you would have palaces and garden scenes and Lord Brahmā perhaps on his throne?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Cintāmaṇi-prakara-sadmasu kalpa-vṛkṣa-lakṣāvṛteṣu (Bs. 5.29). There are palaces, trees, everything. They are not voids. The voidist cannot understand what is there.
Prabhupāda: In Bombay we have got very nice place. The best place of anywhere. And it is so nice in summertime, you'll find in paradise. So many coconut trees. You have seen?
Devotee: No.
Prabhupāda: And we are, Nara-nārāyaṇa has been engaged to make it a nice garden. All vacant land, we are getting nice garden, and the owner of the land, he has given me the best facility.
Prabhupāda: So any sane man, he'll see the cosmic manifestation—that the sun is rising exactly in time; the moon is rising exactly in time; the seasons are changing; the seas is in its position. Just like the Pacific Ocean at any moment it can overflow at any place. But it does not do so. You walk... I was walking in Los Angeles just about three feet away from the sea. So I was explaining to my students, "Now, I am just three feet away from the sea and the sea is so vast. At any second it can overflood us. But why you are confident the sea will not come here?" Because we know, by God's order, although the sea, the ocean, is so big, it cannot violate the order of God. That you are big, that's all right. But you cannot come beyond this line. So these things are being managed. And there is no God? What a nonsense. If things are... Just like when you pass through a house, sometimes if you don't see—the house is not properly taken care of, or there is no light in front of the house, there are so many garbages, we immediately say, "Oh, there is no man in this house." And as soon as you see house is very nicely kept, there is light and the garden is kept, we understand there is a man. So this is common sense. If things are going on, everything is going on so nicely, how you can say there is no management, there is no brain? How you can say? What is this nonsense? How you can say there is no God?
Prabhupāda: So already there are thousands and millions of living entities in my body. But they are individual, I am individual. I may be proprietor of this garden, but there are many millions of living entities living in this garden. Similarly I may be proprietor of this body, but many millions of living entities are living in my body. I know that. Otherwise, how hookworms coming out of my intestines?
Prabhupāda: Worship. That is their advancement of... After taking so much university education, they have learned how to love hogs. Just see the fun. (pause) They are living within the sand. How these rascals are speaking that because in the moon planet there is sand only there is no living entity. How we can believe? We see practically. They do not go to the garden. They live within the sand.
Prabhupāda: The mukti (Bengali conversation continues with Sanskrit verses praising Bhaktisiddhānta Sarasvatī) ...garden like this, surrounding. Like I see so many fruit trees.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: Ah, yes. Do it gradually. And the more beautiful, they will do it in their time.
Prabhupāda: Eh? This is very beautiful species.
Śrutakīrti: Yes, big birds and...
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Devotee: Engineer was saying that if we have a big tree around the building, then it blocks the view of the building. We will make such beautiful building and no one will see it through the trees.
Śrīdhara Mahārāja: What does he say?
Prabhupāda: If we cover with gardens, big, big trees, then the beautiful building will be covered. So therefore he wants to keep it barren. (laughter)
Devotee: That is how the engineer always sees his engineering.
Prabhupāda: Have we got bael nuts also, with our garden?
Devotee: Separate.
Prabhupāda: Oh, separate. Yes, bael nut is separate.
Lord Brockway: These are very beautiful.
Prabhupāda: This is produced in our garden.
Lord Brockway: Yes. Very, very beautiful.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Now we can simply study the beautiful flower, and we can come to God consciousness. How it is made, so beautiful, unless there is brain? And what is that brain? Then you come to God.
Prabhupāda: That is the difference between the crows and the swans. The crows think that we have got food in the garbage. And the swans think that we have got food in nice garden, in the clear water. And that is difference even in the birds kingdom.
Prabhupāda: It is nice, there are many nice flowers.
Guest: You want some nice flowers. I have got a lot of plants now. (indistinct) Tell somebody to come I can give for the garden here. I have got some marigolds, I have got a few (indistinct). I think they are very nice for the pūjā. Tomorrow you can get that.
Prabhupāda: At the present moment, because your, these blunt eyes cannot see the soul, you have to learn it by appreciation. Avagama. It is called avagama.(?) Appreciation. Just like Kṛṣṇa says that tad viddhi, that, that thing which is spreading consciousness, that is soul. Now you can perceive there must be something which is now absent, otherwise why there is no consciousness? Where is the difficulty? If you do not see, you can't understand it. Just like the same example, when good aroma is carried. So somebody says, "This good aroma is coming because the air passing through a flower garden, therefore this aroma." Now this is a fact, but you cannot see the aroma or the air. But you hear from an experienced man. That is the way of understanding which is beyond your sense perception. But these rascals, simply they are depending on their blunt senses, these stupids, so-called scientists. Therefore they're stupids. They simply believe on their eyes. They do not know how much defective these eyes and senses are, incomplete.
Prabhupāda: No, the national garden means there is arrangement. The animals are free, roaming.
Prabhupāda: This is cooperation. You produce... Man can produce fruits and flowers, grains, take the substance, and the rejected portion give to the animal. She gives you milk. You require milk. This is cooperation.
Richard Webster: Well, I do myself because we have a small garden and we grow vegetables, (break)
Prabhupāda: Then do it. Do it. Set example perfectly. This is nice park. Yes. You can have your park locally. Where is the difficulty? Garden. Fruits, flowers, garden. There is park. Also you can have a pond like this. People are doing that locally. In Bengal especially. Whole Bengal was a garden. It was so nice. Whole Bengal was a garden.
Dhanañjaya: I noticed this when I took the train from Calcutta to Krishnanagar. Once you get further out, it's so nice, the villages. There is the pond there.
Prabhupāda: And... Why Calcutta? You go to the airport. You will find so nice gardens, still existing. Now it is spoiled also. Because people have changed locally to the city. Nobody has to take care now. Otherwise, in Bengal especially, throughout the whole India, Bengal was so beautiful.
Bhagavān: You were telling us one time that in India, if a person has a mango orchard, you can come in if you're hungry and eat, but you cannot take any with you.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Still, if you have got a garden, somebody says, "I want to eat some fruits." "Yes, come on. Take as much fruit as you like." But you cannot take it away. Any number of men can come and eat. They even do not prohibit the monkeys. "All right, let him come in. It is God's property." That is the system. That is mentioned in Bhāgavata. If the animals like monkeys, they come to your garden to eat, don't prohibit. Let him. He's also Kṛṣṇa's part and parcel. Where he will eat if you prohibit?
Prabhupāda: Then what... You have done the work of a laborer. That's all. You have taken ingredients from God and worked hard and transformed into a step. That's all. Your creation means just like carpenter creates a furniture. That's all. That is his creation. Then that is... The economic law says that man cannot create anything. He can simply transform. These trees, has man created these trees? Why do they claim man has created everything?
Puṣṭa-kṛṣṇa: But they will say that they made the garden.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Puṣṭa-kṛṣṇa: They will say that they made a very nice garden.
Prabhupāda: That's all. That is the business of gardener, servant, not creator. That is the business of the servant. Just like I keep a gardener servant, and "Do like this. Do like that." That is not he is creator. It is my money which has created. Therefore it is Kṛṣṇa's, everything. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness, that you have not created anything. You are servant. You are working, and Kṛṣṇa is giving you your subsistence. That's all. So why don't you accept that you are servant of God instead of claiming that you have created. What you have created? This is our challenge. Am I right or wrong?
Prabhupāda: If you follow these principles, automatically the loving propensity will awaken. It is already there. It is not artificial. It has simply to be awakened by a certain process. So that process we are prescribing, to rise early in the morning, have maṅgala-ārātrika, worship Deity, offer food stuff, eat prasādam, chant Hare Kṛṣṇa. Anyone who will follow this principle, he will become purified. There is no need of education, because the devotion is already there. By following these rules and regulations, it will be awakened. As, as, as in this straw, there is fire. Now, you ignite it, and just fan it, and the fire will come. It is already there, fire. But you know, you must know the process how to ignite fire. Huge fire will come. You can burn the whole garden from this straw. Is it not? So you must know the process, how to ignite fire.
Professor Durckheim: This is a very ugly village here.
Prabhupāda: Why? It is very clean.
Professor Durckheim: Nothing but stone. No gardens, no flowers. Usually it is different.
Prabhupāda: In other words, you mean to say that "the village for the stone-hearted."
Prabhupāda: Nim tree you have seen in India, and their fruits...
Paramahaṁsa: A little bitter.
Prabhupāda: Yes, very bitter. So the cuckoo, they try to eat the mango fruit flower when small, and the crow they eat that nim tree fruit. So amongst the birds also, there is discrimination according to the quality. Cuckoo sings very nicely. He is fond of mango fruit. And the crow is fond of this nim tree fruit. The white swan, they live in a very nice garden. There is lake, flower. And the crows, they live in the city. Of course, here in your country the garbage is not open. In India there is thrown anywhere and the crows... You have seen it?
Prabhupāda: ...lower animals. Nobody is starving. Have you seen any bird, died of starvation? There are so many hundreds, thousands of birds in this garden.
Prabhupāda: You collected all these flowers?
Amogha: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Great service.
Amogha: From the public gardens. There is a big public garden.
Prabhupāda: This is botanical garden?
Amogha: The sign says parking for botanic gardens. But I'm not acquainted with it.
Prabhupāda: In the spiritual world or the material world the varieties are the same, but the spiritual world is light, and the material world is darkness. Same varieties, there also you will find the same man, woman, or their dealings, love, or gardens, everything you will... Like this, this is only imitation. So if you want to be happy, go there. Tamaso mā. This is the Vedic instruction. Don't remain in this dark region. Jyotir gama. Jyoti means light. Go there. That is the prerogative of the human form of life. Tamaso mā jyotir gama. (break)
Madhudviṣa: They take great trouble to bring trees from all over the different parts of the world to put in the botanical gardens.
Prabhupāda: Very nice gardens. Hardly there is such nice botanical gardens in the world.
Prabhupāda: Cars, they have come to botanical garden? No.
Madhudviṣa: No, they go, they park their cars here and they walk into town.
Prabhupāda: Indian society, the did not know how to drink tea even. In our childhood we have seen that Britishers started tea garden. There was no tea plants before Britishers. The Britishers saw the labor is very cheap, and they want to do business, they started. Just like they are doing in Africa. So many gardens, coffee and tea. So they started, and the tea was transferred to be sold in America. They were after business. So the... Now, so much tea, who will consume? The government started a tea sets committee. All the tea garden holders they would pay government.
Prabhupāda: No, we can judge from the standard laws. India still, if one has very good garden and flowers, if somebody goes, "Sir, I want to take some flowers from your garden for worshiping God," "Yes, you can take." They will be very glad.
Prabhupāda: ...filled with fruits and flowers, then it would have invited many nice birds. But they do not know that. (break) ...chirping, the beauty of the gardens would have been more beautiful. But they cannot invite. There is no fruits, no flower.
Paramahaṁsa: They have a park, a botanical garden in Melbourne where we went.
Prabhupāda: Very big and very beautiful.
Bali-mardana: There is a Buddhist temple here, Chinese Buddhist temple, and I think the cars are for that. And some of the keepers. (break)
Prabhupāda: ...be superintend when the garden opens.
Bahulavana: There's a big rose garden by the museum.
Kuruśreṣṭha: They don't grow fruit trees in the park because someone will eat them.
Prabhupāda: And he will not work. Escaping. (break) ...demonic mentality, "I shall not do anything which will be enjoyed by others."
Prabhupāda: Common men, they didn't care for big palace, the palatial building. Common man would be very glad to live in a cottage, and a small garden for growing vegetables, fruits, small lake, that's all.
Prabhupāda: Just try to understand. Our lake in Māyāpur we shall make like this, all sides clear and four sides, the steps, ghāṭa, and garden.
Prabhupāda: ...explain; therefore they bring this theory of chance. But we don't find any such chance in practical life. "There was a fool and he became high-court judge." Is there any? "There was a fool. He became a high-court judge." Is there any evidence like that? "There was ape. It became human, human being." I am simply surprised how this kind of argument is accepted by other fools.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And if you don't accept it, then they fail you in the examination.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: If you don't accept and repeat it, then you become failed in the examination. Then you can't get a diploma. Then you cannot get a good job. So they force you to repeat it. (break)
Prabhupāda: Field. All of a sudden it became by chance a garden and beautiful, everything.
Prabhupāda: Vegetables you are growing?
Nityānanda: Yes. We have a garden across the street.
Nityānanda: Falls?(?) No. This is our small garden.
Prabhupāda: Fruits and flowers. No, only fruits. What you are doing, flowers?
Prabhupāda: Demolishing.... Saurabha said that cannot be... Here we cannot build?
Saurabha: Well, we have to have a certain amount of garden space, and according to the master plan this is supposed to be garden. Otherwise we're not allowed to build any other building there.
Saurabha: This is used now for storing sand. That land or this?
Prabhupāda: No, no. This.
Saurabha: This will be garden also, but now we keep for storing because we need that for sand here.
Saurabha: The difficulty is there's a law that so much garden we have to make, and each garden has to be minimum 4,000 square feet, so it has to be one particular area. And our land has been divided in so many small pieces, so we have somewhere to make a big garden. Then everywhere else we can build.
Prabhupāda: Do. You have got enough space.
Dhanañjaya: ...been all jungle like this at one time.
Prabhupāda: Hm? Gardens, not jungle.
Dhanañjaya: Not jungle. Forest.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Vana means forest. What is this?
Dhanañjaya: This is garden.
Prabhupāda: Yes. I shall go this way or that way? Whose, this garden? Where is our temple?
Dhanañjaya: Our temple is behind the trees.
Prabhupāda: We shall go this way?
Kartikeya: You can go in the garden.
Prabhupāda: Oh. When they open?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: About seven-thirty. Botanical gardens. (break)
Prabhupāda: Why we have come to this park? We like this atmosphere. So similarly, in villages, everyone, if he has got some land, he can live simply without any gorgeous building. What is the use? Just have a cottage and have garden. You'll live very peacefully. But they're constructing big, big skyscraper building in the downtown, and they will have to come here by car for some peace of mind, and in the meantime, accident, police. This is the civilization, nonsense civilization.
Prabhupāda: In Bengal there is bird. Bengali is also. Every village is a garden like this, and these birds live in such nice garden. Bengal, it is now deserted. Otherwise wherever you go, it is garden. You have seen pukka?
Brahmānanda: Oh, yes.
Prabhupāda: When we go from Calcutta to Māyāpur, simply garden. All banana trees, all coconut trees, mango trees, nice green field. But they cannot maintain. Formerly they were maintaining. All gentlemen used to live within the village, they used to take care. Now all gentlemen, they have left. They have gone to the city. Only poor men are there. They cannot maintain.
Brahmānanda: We stopped one time at the home of that minister. He had his home on that road with big gardens.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Tarun.
Brahmānanda: Tarun Kanti Ghosh. Lush gardens, big lake. That was the Bengal system. Big, big lakes, garden. Unless respectable rich men live in the village... Just like this. This is a nice garden because government is maintaining. So unless there are rich men, who will maintain? Poor men cannot maintain.
Prabhupāda: ...you wanted to construct apartment house. Is it possible to do now?
Saurabha: No.
Prabhupāda: Why?
Saurabha: Because we don't have the required garden space yet. We have to break down the huts in the back. There's some hutments there, and unless those are removed, we cannot do any other construction.
Prabhupāda: No, he appears to be good man. Yes. One day he met me at Hanging Garden, and he requested me that "One day you have to come to my house."
Harikeśa: The foliage also becomes beautiful because of the flower.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is God's creation. Just like these trees. They are condemned, but still, with trees we can make a beautiful garden and that is very enjoyable. That is God's arrangement.
Prabhupāda: (break) These trees are brought from somewhere else.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, they weren't here last time.
Prabhupāda: No. (break) Just see how they are doing.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Garden. It was a jungle.
Madhudviṣa: And your garden is all finished.
Prabhupāda: Finished?
Madhudviṣa: This much garden is all finished. It is all, I mean, complete, with flowers and grass and trees.
Prabhupāda: So what we are getting from this banana garden?
Jayapatāka: Banana.
Prabhupāda: Getting unlimited? (laughter) What do you do with the bananas?
Jayapatāka: Offer them to the Deity.
Hari-śauri: If you just see a flower. Yes, just to walk through a nice garden, it's very pacifying.
Prabhupāda: How many different colors and set up, craftsmanship. There is no brain behind.
Hari-śauri: Chance.
Prabhupāda: It is not chance. In this particular tree, this flower will grow. Color will not change.
Prabhupāda: (break) ...cannot say, Hare Kṛṣṇa. There is such competition. (Hindi with others) I like this garden very nice. (Hindi) It is maintained very nicely. We can get flowers. (Hindi) Water is supply there? (Hindi)
Indian man: There are two wells. (Hindi) The river is very near. Just after that garden, Yamunā.
Prabhupāda: (break) ...that garden.
Jayādvaita: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Where so many men come there.
Jayādvaita: And it is just near our temple.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Very calm and quiet.
Guru-kṛpā: One reporter told you that she was happy, and you said, "Well, if it is happiness, then it's simply happiness of the dog." So they have become satisfied with that standard of happiness.
Prabhupāda: So why they create this botanical garden? If they are satisfied with the happiness of a dog, then why they spend so much money for this botanical garden? Hm? Let them be satisfied like dog, lie down on the street. Why this sense of botanical garden? (break) ...tendency for improving, artificially they are curbing down. Revolution there is. Artificially they say, "No. This is satisfied." Why they are making big, big skyscraper building? Let them remain like dog.
Hari-śauri: You said that tree that stands in the back garden of the house we used to live in in Malibu, and that was the former owner of the house.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Sometimes the atheists, they say there is no soul-intuition. So we do not accept this proposal. The soul, when he is in particular situation, he remembers immediately what he has to do. Just like the small puppies, they have not even opened the eyes, but still, immediately after birth they're searching after food and goes immediately to the nipples of the mother. So how he goes there? They say it is intuition, but it is not intuition. The soul, being put into that body, immediately remembers all the activities of the body. Just like in Los Angeles. When I am in tour in other places I forget about Los Angeles, but as soon as I come here, I know where is my bedroom, where is my sitting room, where is my garden, immediately. I haven't got to be taught that "Here is your sitting room, here is your sleeping room." Immediately, I remember. Similarly, this living entity is transmigrating from time immemorial in different types of body. So as soon as he comes to a particular type of body he remembers the activities immediately. They are interpreting as intuition—that is not intuition. It is old remembrance. This is the explanation.
Prabhupāda: Yes. (break) ...these gardener, they're engaged here.
Rāmeśvara: Yes.
Prabhupāda: He comes a certain period and looks after the garden. (japa) (break) ...are very famous gardener. Unfortunately, in Japan there is no space to make garden.
Kīrtanānanda: They do everything in miniature.
Prabhupāda: Yes. You'll get so many inspirations. (pause) The pathways in the garden, if they are occasionally washed, as far as possible, grow.... (break)
Hari-śauri: I saw a lot of Indians walking around this morning even.
Prabhupāda: In our garden? Yes, they have found a good place, temple.
Hari-śauri: It's a fact. This is the best place in all of Detroit.
Prabhupāda: You make it nice garden. Next year I shall come. From May, I shall stay here May, June, July. (devotees laugh)
Jayādvaita: In Laguna Beach we had so many complaints, that they were trying to stop the temple. And their main complaint was that the devotees were taking flowers from people's gardens and without any permission, without any, simply taking. And just on that account they wanted to stop us. Some petty stealing, fifty dollars worth of flowers.
Prabhupāda: So why our devotees should take flowers from them? Stop it.
Jayādvaita: Yes, I stopped it. Instead I sent a letter to the neighbors that no one is taking flowers and we are planting a big garden. Now they've done that, and the neighbors come and they appreciate that such a nice garden is there, they remark.
Prabhupāda: You can make them friends, that "Your flowers in the garden will dry and fall down, so while it is fresh, if it is offered to God, and you'll get benefit out of it, why you object?" Yes. That's a fact.
Prabhupāda: They have no idea that why the flowers are taken. It is not for our enjoyment, for your enjoyment. When your flowers will be accepted by Kṛṣṇa, you'll be happy.
Jayādvaita: It's a little difficult to explain afterwards. Instead of explaining before, that "Can we take," they would take and then explain.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that you have to manage. That is preaching. What you'll do? I have seen that garden. There are lemons, apples; they are rotting and falling down. So while they can be used for Kṛṣṇa's purpose, why don't you give it?
Prabhupāda: So that, although it is very nicely written from literary point of view, but because it does not contain any glorification of Kṛṣṇa, it is just like the spot where the crows take pleasure. Crows. The crows means they go the nasty place where all nasty things are thrown. They take pleasure there. So all these other literatures, they are meant for the crows. And this literature is meant for the swan, paramahaṁsa, white swans. So it is not the bodily color. It means those who are advanced in their development of life, consciousness, it is meant for them. It is not for the crows, who are still eating all nasty things in the garbage. Crows, they do that. They take pleasure where there are garbage, all nasty things and.... And the big swans, they will like water like this, garden like this. That is.... Even in the lower animals, there is difference between the crow's society and swan's society.
Hari-śauri: Śrīla Prabhupāda? It's nine o'clock.
Prabhupāda: It may be ten o'clock. (laughter) What is the difference when here and there? (Prabhupāda laughs) Just like a blind man, he's sleeping, now his son is getting, "Please rise, it is now morning." So he said, "For me, morning and evening is the same thing. I am blind." Kebā rātra kebā din. "For me, there is no difference between day and night, because I cannot see anything."
Rakṣaṇa: Because you see only Kṛṣṇa all the time, Śrīla Prabhupāda, it doesn't matter whether you're in the room or in the garden.
Hari-śauri: Śrīla Prabhupāda? Did you want to go out into the garden tonight or not?
Prabhupāda: I have no objection.
Prabhupāda: (break) ...of the garden, they are not clean. They should be clean. Just like in front of our, this temple, the footpath is very clean.
Satsvarūpa: There's stones in the garden, washed.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Grass, water it, cleanse. Mandira-mārjanādau. That is also bhajana.
Prabhupāda: ...nice garden, but if anyone wants to live here, the government will not allow.
Prabhupāda: Nice, very nice. And there will be garden here?
Kīrtanānanda: Yes. We are gradually clearing all this land, this was all wooded last year, and we're clearing now.
Kīrtanānanda: Kulaśekhara, yes, he is editing Brijabasi Spirit now. We will put a wall around and then all nice gardens inside.
Prabhupāda: Cement wall or wooden?
Kīrtanānanda: No, a combination of masonry and fancy iron so that people can see through.
Dhṛṣṭadyumna: Very nice garden.
Prabhupāda: Very nice garden and on the riverside.
Dhṛṣṭadyumna: All the rich people come by in their yachts all day long and wave, "Hare Kṛṣṇa." So Śrīla Prabhupāda said we should put a sign up on the, boat, that they can drive their boat in and take prasādam and read the books.
Prabhupāda: Yes. And invite them, give here signboard: "Please come, read our books and take prasādam." Gradually, they will come. Very big garden.
Devotee (1): These are publicity for the Ratha-yātrā. This is the article about the building, how it's the most attractive real estate in Cleveland. It's in the paint and flowers and gardens.
Prabhupāda: This year's?
Devotee (1): Yes. People would drive by the temple, Prabhupāda, and just look. They would drive by and look once, drive a little further and look twice and three times.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: This evening, Śrīla Prabhupāda, we are arranging that you can see the film a little bit later in your room. Perhaps you would like to sit outside in the garden?
Prabhupāda: Very nice.
Rūpānuga: It's quiet here.
Prabhupāda: Nice.
Vṛṣākapi: There's a swimming pool here, Prabhupāda. You have a garden by the pool; you can take your massage there.
Prabhupāda: The gross body is made of this earth, water, air, fire, ether, like this. And the subtle body is made of mind, intelligence and ego. And the spirit soul is within that outward gross and subtle bodies. When the gross body is annihilated, the subtle body, mind, carries the soul to a similar body as he was thinking at the time of death. It is, example is given... Just like the flavor of a rose garden is carried by the air or the bad odor of a filthy place is also carried by the air, similarly, mind, intelligence carries me to a particular type of body as I was absorbed in thought at the time of death.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Bombay is just like garden. As good as your place here. No. Not so big. It is seventeen acres, and Bombay is five.
Bhagavān: These are all smelling flowers. They're very sweet, like gardenia.
Prabhupāda: Oh, developed(?) in our garden.
Bhagavān: No, we bought. These we cannot grow. We bought these special.
Prabhupāda: (break).... A small potato, in the śukta you gave it?
Harikeśa: No, that was radish.
Devotee (1): See from the garden many tomatoes and squash. Cauliflower is coming also.
Hari-śauri: Oh. You just had the shop at the bottom.
Prabhupāda: Bottom shop and the first floor, I took my...
Harikeśa: With a garden.
Prabhupāda: Not a garden, but there was some vegetables.
Prabhupāda: Calcutta, oh, it was so nice city. Now it is hell. It is same Calcutta. Why it is now hell? Hidden(?) garden, that was a nice garden. So... Everywhere hell, only hell. Calcutta was considered the nicest city in India, better than Bombay, but it has become now hell. The streets, especially those quarters in our temple.
Prabhupāda: This is thyme herbs? No. This is the seed.
Hari-śauri: Oh, them. They grow it in the garden. The first, what you got, that was grown here. Those twigs? They were grown here in the garden.
Hari-śauri: We have fresh cucumber every day.
Prabhupāda: But when I take it does not appear to be fresh.
Devotee (1): These are bulk cucumbers.
Devotee (2): This is fresh cucumber from the garden.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Devotee (1): Beans you have had every day from the garden.
Hari-śauri: Beans are very stringy.
Prabhupāda: Oh, so many fresh things.
Devotee (1): There's many varieties of flowers in the gardens, many flowers for garlands for almost the next two months.
Prabhupāda: Grow more, more, all these fruits, flowers.
Prabhupāda: Oh, you'll get help for construction work. He can teach others also. Live peacefully, happily, and chant Hare Kṛṣṇa, that's all.
Bhagavān: The garden crew, when they go out in the afternoon, they have kīrtana out to the fields with mṛdaṅga and karatālas where they work.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Anyway, just inquire. These are our garden flowers.
Jayatīrtha: Oh, very nice.
Prabhupāda: This is also?
Bhagavān: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Anything grown in the garden, that is hundred times valuable than it is purchased from the market.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. You have got any fruit tree in the garden?
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Some pear trees, some apple.
Prabhupāda: This garden belongs to the palace? No.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: It so-called belongs to the people, to the government. But here palace has a lot of influence.
Jñānagamya: They say God has given us everything for our pleasure, that God is not worried about whether He owns it or not, He simply wants to give to us.
Prabhupāda: That is your idea, but if I am proprietor of something, I must keep my right. It is not that... Suppose I am proprietor of this house, and there is a nice garden. I allow my friends and relatives or family to use it. But when they misuse it, shall I remain silent? If I am proprietor, when things are being misused, shall I remain silent? When you misuse it and if I chastise you, how you can say that "You have given to us, whatever we like we can do. Why you are protesting?" Can they say like that? You say that God has given us, so we can do, there is no need of God. That is your argument, is it not? What that argument?
Ātreya Ṛṣi: This is watermelon, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: You are giving all of them?
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Yes, it's from our garden(?).
Prabhupāda: Give me one piece.
Prabhupāda: It is as good as that garden here. Rather, here there is no disturbance of outsiders, and there there are so many disturbances. It is better.
Hari-śauri: But variety is the spice of life.
Prabhupāda: Variety, there are qualities of varieties. Just like we enjoy varieties prasādam, and there is variety in the brothel also. Two qualities of variety. Variety is good, that's all right.
Hari-śauri: Well, sometimes we want to sit in a garden like this and sometimes we like to be inside, and other times we like to go out to the movies.
Prabhupāda: I don't go out. We do not go to the movies or to the restaurant. It is different taste. Therefore it is calculated three kinds of men-sāttvika, rājasika, tāmasika-their tendencies are different.
Indian: Where can we get some?
Dr. Patel: You can grow them here in this garden.
Prabhupāda: Yes, it is very easy.
Prabhupāda: I think in this quarter our, this land is the best. This Juhu and Birawallah(?) Scheme, this land is the best. Twenty-thousand square yards full of palm trees, and we have made this garden. This advantage is not available by everyone.
Prabhupāda: Very nice garden. (break) ...you see this nim tree in any other part of the world. It is only in India.
Prabhupāda: Hyderabad that garden, Bala, Bala... You have been?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: I didn't go on the walk.
Caraṇāravindam: You would like to see growing in your garden a little sabji?
Prabhupāda: Yes. It is very... Cucumber. These things can be grown very easily. And zucchini. Called zucchini?
Prabhupāda: So it is very pleasing spot. You have done nice. I'm feeling nice.
Hari-śauri: Your pleasure is our pleasure.
Caraṇāravindam: It is your mercy. It is ecstasy to come in here and do something on the garden for you. Very good. I want to see lotuses growing. Then I will be happy. Nice lotuses. When I can pick a lotus and give to you, then it is nice.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: We have a very beautiful garden for you.
Prabhupāda: Garden? Oh.
Prabhupāda: Oh, they eat bugs?
Caraṇāravindam: Yes. They do very good service in gardens. Gardener's friend, the toad. Grass snakes, earthworm and the toad and frog. Gardener's friends. He'll sit there and he'll wait for a fly to come.
Prabhupāda: Jīvo jīvasya jīvanam. One life is food for the another life. Kṛṣṇa has made such an arrangement that every living entity has got some service. So he's allowed to do the service, then he's finished by another living entity.
Gaursundara: Yes. We have in Hawaii. It's called aloe cactus. Aloe vera.
Indian man: It is kneaded in the flour and little ghee and the paraṭā will be... It is wonderful for your joints. And this arthritis, it is wonderful. I got it about a year back and put in my garden because my wife needed and we were getting it from somebody else's garden.
Prabhupāda: What they... Why this water is?
Hari-śauri: Well they are watering the garden.
Devotee: Yeah, exactly, and also in here around this area and around in here. And in the back here we have like a small desert garden with cactus and different things.
Prabhupāda: It is desert?
Devotee: No, it's not a desert but that's the way this rear portion has been landscaped, you know.
Mahāṁśa: ...plant more trees, orchards for fruits and flowers, flower garden. So there will be plenty of flowers for the altar in Hyderabad every day and for the programs here. (break)
Prabhupāda: ...walking road.
Mahāṁśa: Yes. This road also, we want to extend it all the way to the end of the land.
Prabhupāda: They gave them, for developing these enterprises, a little knowledge in English, ABCD, they would get good job. In this way they established. Money and export, import... This business enterprise and industry, these..., all these things, were introduced. There was not a single factory before British days. Industry idea is completely Western. And tea garden.
Girirāja: I know Mr. Bajoria in Calcutta, he told me that in the beginning the Indians would not purchase tea because they considered it was sinful, and the British had to make a big propaganda.
Prabhupāda: All the tea gardeners, all, they were mostly Britishers. They paid money for maintaining a department, tea sets(?) committee, and their only business was to make propaganda village to village how tea becomes popular. Similarly, drinking, meat-eating... And it became a fashion among the richer class to keep prostitutes, go to the garden weekend with prostitutes and wine, freely use them, intoxicated. It was a prestigious position to keep a prostitute. A rich man having a garden and one prostitute, they were... Anything in demand... I have seen it.
Prabhupāda: In our childhood I saw. To go weekend to the garden and... Generally they go with family, and others, they go with prostitute. With prostitute they have got freedom to handle.
Prabhupāda: Haṁsas. They live in a very nice clean water, garden.
Prabhupāda: But tea they also produce it.
Gurudāsa: Was it introduced by the English?
Prabhupāda: Yes. India did not know what is tea. They started the tea gardens, and they recruited labors from India.
Jayapatākā: Even a lot of men are used for making the garden. In the beginning, converting the land to garden land for flowers requires a lot of labor. Because flowers require very...
Prabhupāda: Fertile.
Jayapatākā: ...fertile and particularly fine soil that has to be dug and chopped and cleaned out.
Prabhupāda: Formerly, in our father's time, it was aristocratic to keep one prostitute and keep one garden also.
Prabhupāda: So we're desiring one after, one after, one after, one after... The last desire... Because if you become addicted to certain type of desire, that is prominent at the time of death. Yaṁ yaṁ vāpi smaran bhāvaṁ tyajaty ante kalevaram (BG 8.6), sadā tad-bhāva-bhāvitaḥ. So māyā's machine is immediately prepared. That mind—manaḥ buddhiḥ ahaṅkāra. Subtle. You cannot see. You see the body is burned, finished. Rascal, that is not finished. Na hanyate hanyamāne (BG 2.20). It is not finished. There is subtle body. The subtle body carries. The example is just like flavor of rose garden carries, similarly, the desire is carried, and he requires a machine to ride on, particular. So there are eighty-four million machines, and he's, karmaṇā daiva-netreṇa (SB 3.31.1), by the supervision of māyā, carried to this mother's womb. The soul is injected through the semina of the father, and he enters the womb of the mother, and mother gives the ingredients, develops his body, and as soon as it is complete, comes out. Where is the difficulty to understand this transmigration of the soul?
Rāmeśvara: The appearance of our center here has improved at least a thousand times from last year.
Prabhupāda: On account of that building.
Rāmeśvara: And also the gardens and the lawns being kept nicely.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Even big, big men, they are... Tarun Kanti he said, "Vaikuṇṭha."
Devotee: And there can be a garden on the roof.
Prabhupāda: Yes, some flower tubs, and... You have already done? No.
Prabhupāda: What about my house?
Bhavānanda: That money has just been received, and the plans have arrived from Delhi, but we are wanting an architect in Calcutta, competent architect to... Because we don't want to have anything go wrong in the middle. Ram Nrisinghatar(?) was saying that Mistri is interested in doing Prabhupāda's house. The house and gorgeous garden we have, with fountains and terraces and walkways, all around, before and behind the house, on either side, all enclosed and private.
Prabhupāda: There will be more water for gardening, and it will be moist, and then produce fodder for the animals and food for you. And animal gives you milk. That is Vṛndāvana life.
Prabhupāda: Actually the spirit soul is the basis of all activities. Jīva-bhūtāṁ mahā-bāho yayedaṁ dhāryate... (BG 7.5). Actually, because the living entity is there, all activities are going on. Who else would have taken care of this garden unless there was a living entity? Not that all of a sudden the bricks have developed to become a fountain. What is this nonsense? Such a rascal scientific theory?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Perfectly utilizes that land. Inside, you want flower gardens.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: In addition to providing flowers for the Deity, will people who visit the temple walk there, or it will be closed to them?
Prabhupāda: They can walk. This flower garden... Why not? Footpaths.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: There can be a footpath.
Prabhupāda: But in the middle there must be very nice flower garden.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Dr. Sharma, let Prabhupāda give his idea. What was your idea, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Yes, here garden must be here. We want flowers.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Fountain in the middle, Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Garden must be there. And all around, pathway. Very good.
Indian man (2): But Swamiji, the fountain or the garden should be in the center or in one corner?
Prabhupāda: No, center.
Indian man (2): The center of this...
Prabhupāda: That will be very nice.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Big fountain in the center, just like in your garden there's a big fountain.
Prabhupāda: That will be soothing also. All right.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, that's what they say, "water vegetable." I noticed that these banana trees, they don't seem to have any bananas on them. Growing in your garden?
Prabhupāda: Hm, why?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: My guess is that in order for bananas to grow... Like I have not seen normally banana trees growing in this side, you know what I mean, Vṛndāvana. I suspect it has something to do with the soil. You can't just take a tree and plant it wherever you want. Soil has to be such that it can give the proper nutrition for bananas to grow. It looks good, but it's not banana.
Prabhupāda: There was avocado tree.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes, in your garden house. Oh, boy, that was a nice house you had there.
Prabhupāda: Hm.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Big window, picture window looking out to your garden.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: The parents used to come in Los Angeles in the evening while you were sitting in the garden.
Prabhupāda: Which garden?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: In Los Angeles.
| Page Title: | Garden (Conversations) |
| Compiler: | Tugomera |
| Created: | 20 of Jan, 2011 |
| Totals by Section: | BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=127, Let=0 |
| No. of Quotes: | 127 |