Prabhupāda: Similarly, kṛṣṇa-kathā, the simply, the simple method, if you kindly come and hear, then you will be pious. That is the first installment. You don't understand or don't follow, but if the injection is there you become pious. Puṇya-śravaṇa-kīrtanaḥ. And if you give little attention, then the result will be hṛdy antaḥ-stho hy abhadrāṇi, all undesirable things that is accumulated within your heart, that will be cleared. Kṛṣṇa will help you.
Śivānanda: Now, um, supposedly, the false ego and...
Prabhupāda: What is the false ego and..., now you have to hear. That's all.
Śivānanda: No, I mean the attention itself, this is material, very, very subtle, but...
Prabhupāda: Yes. If you give attention, it is better. Even if you don't give attention, simply hear, that will also have some effect.