Prabhupāda: Formerly, when I was in Rādhā-Dāmodara temple, there was a khol manufacturer here. Is he here still? He supplied me khol very nice, very big. This khol was taken to Germany or...
Akśayananda: What was his name?
Prabhupāda: I forgot.
Akśayananda: There is one man here.
Prabhupāda: In here?
Akśayananda: One man is here, but I don't know if it's the same one.
Prabhupāda: Can you call him?
Akśayananda: Yes. I think he's just a repairman though.
Prabhupāda: Whatever he may be. Yes. We must have very good khol. You have no good khol.
Akśayananda: I had one under repair. I had two under repair with him. But he takes a long time. I am waiting now for repair.
Prabhupāda: So you can call him.
Akśayananda: Okay. You'd like to meet him?
Prabhupāda: Yes. If the same man, then I can ask him to prepare some khol.
Akśayananda: Ours get damaged.
Hari-śauri: The shells or...?
Akśayananda: They break them so easily. They cannot control them. The shell, the skin, anything, always break.
Hari-śauri: You should make some padded covers for them.
Prabhupāda: Who is doing that? Everyone is irresponsible.
Akśayananda: Even with that, they break.
Hari-śauri: But at least it helps the chances they'll survive.
Prabhupāda: The one thing is that they neglect that rings. That ring and the strap, if it is... That will never do. As soon as they khol, some rope, bas.
Hari-śauri: Usually what breaks is that little leather loop, you know, the small loop on each end. That's what usually breaks. If you want to...
Prabhupāda: No, if you make it nicely with chain.
Akśayananda: I have made it even nicely with a cord, with a ring, and the proper straps. But they put it like this and like this and they bang it the wrong way. This is my problem. I can't stop it, no matter what we do.
Hari-śauri: You just bring them out for ārati and then have somebody take them back and they won't get broken. Haṁsadūta was doing that with his mṛdaṅgas.
Akśayananda: I was also doing that.
Hari-śauri: The mṛdaṅgas are in there all day long. Any karmī that comes in, they beat the drum and mess around. The little kids go in and they do the same thing. I've seen them. You should take them out of the temple. Let them be there for kīrtana and then take them away and store them in your room. There's no kartālas now either because everybody steals them.
Prabhupāda: These two rooms can be used for keeping.
Akśayananda: Kartālas are locked away every time and the drums were done... That was done until they were broken.
Hari-śauri: Or you can just put them in that tourist room. Or in the pūjārī room.
Akśayananda: Yeah, I'll arrange for that.
Prabhupāda: Everything depends on organized management. Give some...
Akśayananda: Shall I put... Some gentlemen, some bābājīs, are coming now, some metas.
Prabhupāda: Aiye, aiye. Betiye.
Akśayananda: May I help bota? (?)
Prabhupāda: Yes. Betiye. (end)