Interviewer: Thank you, caller.
Gargamuni: Oh.
Interviewer: Now, I want to ask you something. You said we live in a bad world, but through our mind, our soul, we can escape.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Interviewer: Or through Kṛṣṇa consciousness. We're not solving anything then by doing that. We're sort of, in our own mind, we're running away.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that running away is the best sol... Suppose you are put in a prison house. The solution is to go out of it. If you want to make adjustment of the prison house, that is impossible. You may be a first-class prisoner or second-class prisoner, third-class prisoner, but you will remain a prisoner. But if you want freedom, then you must go out of the prison walls.
Interviewer: But I notice you have many, you seem to have a lot of young men who are part of your organization. These young men must face the material problems of today like the draft and Vietnam and everything.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Interviewer: Isn't it difficult to belong to Kṛṣṇa consciousness and exist in this world we must exist in?
Prabhupāda: Yes, the thing is that persons who are in Kṛṣṇa consciousness anywhere, even they are put into a very uncomfortable position, they are not suffering in the same way as ordinary man.