Prabhupāda: Enjoy, but where is your enjoyment? Come to the practical point. Where is your enjoyment? You are simply suffering. That is their rascaldom. They are suffering; still they say, "I am enjoying." This is called illusion, māyā. Enjoy. That we also say, that we are trying to take you to a certain place, kingdom of God or back . . . where you will enjoy. Enjoy . . . Ānandamayo 'bhyāsāt (Vedānta-sūtra 1.1.12). That enjoy is our aim. But where is your enjoyment here? That is your rascaldom. There is no enjoyment; still you say, "We shall enjoy."
Cyavana: Their propaganda leads people to think that they can enjoy, that it's possible here.
Prabhupāda: They're misleading. That is misleading. We have to check that. That is our Kṛṣṇa consciousness . . . that . . . they are not enjoying, and these rascals misleading them that they are enjoying. (break) Enjoyment is our aim also—but real enjoyment. Ramante yogino 'nante satyānande (CC Madhya 9.29). Satyānanda. Not this ānanda, temporary ānanda.
Cyavana: Eternal.
Prabhupāda: Satyānanda-cid-ātmani. Yogī, bhakti-yogī, they also want ānanda, but not this false ānanda, satyānanda-cid-ātmāni, iti . . . therefore they call rāma. Rāma means ramaṇa, enjoyment. Iti rāma-padenāsau paraṁ brahmābhidhiyate (CC Madhya 9.29). They do not know what is satyānanda. They do not understand the . . . as soon as we accept this material body it is misery, simply misery. The body is constructed within the womb of the mother in a miserable condition. These rascals, they do not understand. In a packed-up way, head down, leg up. And it is enjoyment. The body is created in this troublesome, miserable condition; still, they say "enjoyment." This is foolishness. This is called illusion.