Devotee: Beginning when one takes sannyāsa initiation? It doesn't necessarily mean he's a controller of senses, is that right? Gradually he may rise up to...
Prabhupāda: Yes. No. A sannyāsī is already qualified. Then (indistinct). The first beginning is chanting. If he follows the regulative principles and chants sixteen rounds, that is his qualification. And by that process, he'll come to the point of full surrender. Then we give him the second initiation. And when he's actually engaged in the service of the Lord heart and soul, then we give him sannyāsa.
Devotee: Do you have any more questions?
Martin: No, no. You've more than filled my cup.
Prabhupāda: What is that?
Martin: You have filled my cup, more than filled.
Prabhupāda: Thank you very much. (break)