Aksayānanda: Yes, I have. Still, if we're sincere we'll stay in Vṛndāvana even if blood and stool comes from the sky, if you want.
Prabhupāda: Why do you expect that? (break) ...capati, you apply little ghee?
Aksayānanda: For the guests.
Prabhupāda: And not for you?
Aksayānanda: No.
Prabhupāda: Why?
Aksayānanda: Because it's very expensive and not necessary.
Prabhupāda: No.
Aksayānanda: If you say it is necessary, we will do.
Prabhupāda: No, in this season it is necessary.
Aksayānanda: Very nice. We'll do. That is nice. A little more ghee should be there.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Aksayānanda: A little more grain. Even little grain at night is all right, I think.
Prabhupāda: No, you must eat properly.
Aksayānanda: Yes. Then we'll do it.
Prabhupāda: And try to keep some cows.
Aksayānanda: Accha.
Prabhupāda: Yes. On the other land. Make a shed immediately and keep some cows. And Viśvambhara, he is experienced. He will help. (break) ...necessary vairāgya, there is no need. We don't approve that. Yuktāhāra-vihāras ca. What you require for keeping health but not to eat too much. But what is absolutely required must be done.
Aksayānanda: I heard that if you pass stool more than once a day you become a bhogī? You are called a bhogī?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Aksayānanda: Does that mean a serious devotee should only pass stool once a day?
Prabhupāda: Don't artificially do that. (laughter) First of all become yogi. Then do it.
Aksayānanda: Yes. Of course, it can only be done by Kṛṣṇa's mercy, but one should at least try for that.
Prabhupāda: Hare Kṛṣṇa. Jaya. Don't try for passing stool once. (laughter) That does not make you a yogi.
Bhavananda: Yoginām api sarveṣāṁ mad-gatenāntarātmanā (BG 6.47).
Prabhupāda: Antara... Yes. That makes you yogi, not by passing stool. (laughter) Hare Kṛṣṇa. (break)