Kern: Do you have any in training for second class?
Prabhupāda: No, for the time being. (laughs) We have no means. Suppose.... Second class means he must be courageous to fight. So I have no means how to train them, you see? And without training, the second class, if you send him to the war, the experience is they will flee away. The many enemies coming, and they are going away.
Scheverman: Are you training people to become teachers in this school, this process of education?
Prabhupāda: Yes, as soon as you become. Without being first-class man, you cannot teach. A second-class, third-class, fourth-class man is not meant for teaching.
Scheverman: Where would you do this teaching?
Prabhupāda: Teaching everywhere, wherever there is possibility.
Kern: Do you do this by yourself? Are there any teachers?
Prabhupāda: No, I give them ideas, they go and teach. It is not one man's business.
Kern: No, I understand. Will you be here a good long while? Or will you be going to...
Prabhupāda: The thing is that I have established so many centers. So I have to go from one center to another just to encourage them. Otherwise I am old enough. I am eighty years. So traveling is not very good job for me, but still I do it just to encourage them.
Kern: Do.... Your lines of authority then come from you, or is it an elective authority?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Everything is work on higher authority.
Kern: In other words, there would be no election. Like if you go to San Francisco...
Prabhupāda: No, I have got my secretaries. I have got about twenty secretaries who are in charge of some group of temples.
Scheverman: I see. And you appoint the secretaries then who are in charge of the groups, each local group.
Prabhupāda: Yes. I try to manage as far as possible, but I'm not getting any government's cooperation. It is all my personal endeavor.
Scheverman: Do you hope to acquire school buildings for teaching school?
Prabhupāda: Yes, why not? If there is arrangement for financing such school we can start, very nice.
Kern: Father would sell you a fine school.
Scheverman: We have a building that will be available shortly (laughs) if you want to start a school.
Prabhupāda: So let us cooperate.
Scheverman: (laughs) Let us cooperate. And your teachers. There's no question about the kind of thing you're talking about here is needed.
Prabhupāda: "Father" means responsibility. According to our Vedic literature, one should not become a father unless he can deliver his son from the cycle of birth and death. Pitā na sa syāj na mocayed yaḥ samupeta-mṛtyum. At the present moment we are in the cycle of birth and death in the conditioned stage. So it is the duty of the father how to save the son from the cycle of birth and death. This is responsibility.