Paramahaṁsa: But he cannot do anything like lift Goverdhana Hill or have sixteen thousand wives.
Prabhupāda: That is both for them. Let them lift only one mound weight. Then they will come. But they cannot do, neither of them. That is impossible. They have not killed any demons. They are taking advantage of the foolishness of some people. That's all.
Amogha: The only quality they have exhibited is expertness in cheating. That is their qualification. (break)
Paramahaṁsa: (in car) Because so many of them are saying that "I am God," they become envious of one another, and then they fight and expose each other.
Prabhupāda: Competition. God's competition.
Paramahaṁsa: Yes. And then everyone can see that they are simply materialists.
Prabhupāda: Not only he, but there are many others claim to become God. All of them should be brought into the court.
Paramahaṁsa: Didn't Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura do that once?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Paramahaṁsa: What was the penalty that he...?
Prabhupāda: He put into the jail for six months. And he died in the jail. He took poison. Because after coming out of the jail, he could not do his business. He's finished.
Gaṇeśa: Also Paundraka.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Kṛṣṇa cut his head immediately. Let this Guru Mahārāja cut the heads of the opposition, that "You do not accept me God, I cut your head." Let him cut the head of his brother or mother.
Paramahaṁsa: (laughing) He may do that.
Prabhupāda: Then we can understand he is God. Why does he go to the mercy of court? And the court has detained him. What kind of God...? So can you get charcoal?
Amogha: Charcoal, yes
Prabhupāda: Yes, get it. (end)