Dr. Patel: That the consciousness comes after the combination of...
Prabhupāda: We are talking of this verse, that if this is the composition of the body, these things are available anywhere. Why don't you create life? Therefore he is no better than the dogs. He has no intelligence that "How this combination of blood, urine, stool, and bone, and muscle can create life?" They are thinking that a combination of matter can bring life force. That is the so-called scientists' theory. So these things are available in large quantity, so why don't you create life? Therefore go-kharaḥ. Their intelligence is not better than the cows and the asses from the very beginning. If they are not cows and asses, how they can think of that combination of these material things can bring in life? When a man dies, find out if there is scarcity of stool or scarcity of urine or scarcity of blood. Bring it and inject it. These rascals, they cannot do it, and still they are calculating urine examination, blood examination and this examination. (laughter) No, I am not saying. It is śāstra. (laughter) Take this dead man's body, and whatever urine and stool is there, examine, and then inject, and come him, let him back, come to life. Then I will understand that your examination of the stool, urine is perfect. This is common question. So long the soul was there, you are very expert to examine stool, urine and this and that. But when the soul is gone... Now the stool is there; urine is there. Why don't you examine and give life? This is our challenge.
Dr. Patel: They say that the life, the consciousness... According to our religion, consciousness, the whole thing is conscious
Prabhupāda: Consciousness means soul, soul.
Dr. Patel: Consciousness is the higher śakti of God, I mean, apara to anya...
Prabhupāda: No, no, consciousness... So long the soul is there, the consciousness is there. The consciousness is not there means the soul is not there.
Indian (2): But one thing the doctor has got in power, you see. That is this, that suppose he gives a poisonous injection, that is immediately affected, and why the soul is out of it if...?
Prabhupāda: No, no, all injection will be effective so long the soul is there.
Dr. Patel: Yes. Give it to the dead bodies, he says.
Prabhupāda: That is my point, that if... (aside:) Hare Kṛṣṇa. If this analysis of the blood, urine and other things can help us, so you can analyze the dead bodies—stool, urine, blood, something is there—and give some injection and let him come to life.
Dr. Patel: (Hindi)
Prabhupāda: Therefore they are go-kharaḥ. Yasyātmā-buddhiḥ kunape tri...
Dr. Patel: So long the soul is there. As soon as the soul dies, goes away, the body dies.
Prabhupāda: That is the explanation of the body dies.