Guest (3): Chanting is mental concentration, is it?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Chanting and hearing, locked up. Mind is locked up. And because the Kṛṣṇa vibration is locked up, then Kṛṣṇa is locked up, because there is no difference between Kṛṣṇa and His name, absolute. Kṛṣṇa is absolute. Therefore there is no difference between Kṛṣṇa and His name, His form, His pastimes.
- nāma-cintāmaṇi-kṛṣṇaś
- caitanya-rasa-vigrahaḥ
- purnaḥ śuddho nitya-mūkto
- 'bhinnatvān nāma-nāminoḥ
Because nāma and the nāminaḥ, being inseparable, therefore nāma is also purna, nitya, śuddha, mukta.
Guest (3): What is the trance that... The meditation, trance enters. It is called...
Prabhupāda: Trance is... The actual meditation means concentrate one's mind on Viṣṇu form. That is real meditation. But now they have, the impersonalists and voidists, they have manufactured so many things, but actual meditation means...
Guest (3): Transcendental meditation. Trans...?
Prabhupāda: Transcendental meditation. The transcendental meditation means to think of Lord Viṣṇu.