So without knowing, without sufficient knowledge, they are declaring themselves as civilized. That is mentioned here, nūnaṁ pramattaḥ kurute vikarma (SB 5.5.4). And why they are doing that? Yad indriya-prītaye, simply for the satisfaction of the tongue. That is also false. If you have got enough milk production, you can take, break the milk, and you get cheese. And from cheese, if you... We are daily doing that. You can make nice preparation, chānā. That is very nutritious, full of protein. And you can make rasagullā, sandeśa, so many other preparations from the casein of the cheese. But they do not know. Crude civilization, and take a lump of flesh and boil it and give little salt and black pepper and eat like animal. This is civilization. This is civilization. Just try to understand. You have to convince your countrymen that what is this civilization, nonsense civilization? Stop this kind of civilization. Learn how to become civilized. Don't claim yourself as civilized man and eating like tigers and dogs and cats. Is that civilization? But they are doing. That is stated here. It is not new. Always, there is a certain class of men, demons, who are not civilized, but declaring themselves as civilized. Otherwise, how it has come into Bhāgavata? There were also in that time. Now the number has increased on account of this age. But these two classes of men are always there.
Chana
Lectures
Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures
Conversations and Morning Walks
1973 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: You are in a different world.
Guest (1): Yes. Is it Bengali food though? In Bombay also?
Prabhupāda: Yes. This puffed rice is used all provinces, all provinces, especially in Bombay and Bengal. I think everywhere, in Madras, U.P. In U.P. it is called bajiya, chaval chana bajiya.
Guest (1): Channa we have.
Prabhupāda: No. Channa. That is called chaval. Puffed rice means chaval. From grains we have got varieties of foods. Grains, fruits, vegetables, milk, sugar, you can make at least four hundred, five hundred varieties.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Thinking is a natural process. Prabhupāda: Eh? Svarūpa Dāmodara: Thinking is a natural... Prabhupāda: Yes. You have got mind. You have got mind. Therefore you must think. But that thinking... Why there is psychology science? What do you think? Why do you go to school, college to learn psychology? To learn how to think. How thinking process is going on. There is education required, how to think correctly.
1976 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: One thing you have missed: how we are preparing all these foodstuffs.
Kīrtanānanda: It was too short. In the movie? It was too short how to prepare it?
Prabhupāda: Yes. How from milk in different stages you get this foodstuff, kacuris, śṛṅgāra,(?) sandeśa, rābṛi. And this chānā, if fried, if you prepare nicely with little hing and ginger, then it will exactly taste like meat. They'll forget. If you give them without telling them, they will think that they're eating meat.
Kīrtanānanda: Hing and what? Prepare with hing and?
Prabhupāda: Ginger.
Hari-śauri: They feed it to the cows.
Prabhupāda: They eat?
Hari-śauri: They drink it. They put it in their feed, whatever. But then if there's any extra, they throw it away, they put on the..., mix it with fertilizer or whatever for the land.
Prabhupāda: It should not be given to the cows. It should be kept, and when it is broken, you get the chānā.
Hari-śauri: It should be made into curd and yogurt, things like that.
Prabhupāda: Yes, not yogurt, chānā, what you call, curd?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Cheese, like cheese.
Prabhupāda: Cheese, yes? But it should not be thrown. From cheese you can make so many preparations.
Prabhupāda: Huh? Drumstick. So the transport is a dangerous thing.
Haṁsadūta: Yes, this is a scheme.
Prabhupāda: A local man cannot get. He's starving. And the man in big cities, he's doing nothing, he simply has got paper to sign and paper money he's attracting. All production. And they are starving. This is modern civilization. Everything, milk, vegetables, fish, everything, this chānā. Otherwise, within the village you can get everything. Village economy. Everything very cheap. And as soon as they got these transport facilities, the local men, they could not eat, and these lazy rascals, they are getting everything. Big, big cities like Calcutta, Bombay, they (have) millions of population. They are not producing anything. The producer is different man. They are simply artificially cheating them by paper money and they take. This is modern civilization.
1977 Conversations and Morning Walks
Prabhupāda: The Indians are all doing that, the same education. Recently for a post of five hundred men there were three lakhs of applications. This is education. And you'll find uneducated Indian, still he's independent. You will find in Calcutta especially we have seen. Yes. In the morning they'll purchase a bag of potato. Say, he invests twenty rupees. Nowadays he'll sit down in a corner and make two rupees' profit. He invests twenty rupees, and he gets twenty-two. He's satisfied, poor man. Then in the, say, ten to twelve he'll purchase some dāl. He'll go home to home. He'll make another two rupees' profit. In the evening he'll take some kerosene oil, and he'll sell. Evening everyone requires kerosene oil. He'll make another two rupees. So he's illiterate. He makes six rupees' profit, five rupees' profit, and if he can, ten rupees' profit. And takes some chana cho(?), some peanuts, sit down. In this way he's independently earning five to ten rupees. And educated? He's just like dog—"Give me job"—and unemployed and eating at the cost of father or welfare activities, welfare department, and moving like dog. Just see practically. The uneducated, he's earning because he knows that "If I go with application, what education I have got? Nobody will like me." He's hopeless in that way.
Prabhupāda: So from restaurant you have got good income there?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Approximately, I would say, between $7,500 and $10,000 a month. That is not all profit, but that is the gross income. Profit? At least more than half profit. And much milk products are used. We supply the temple and the restaurant from the farm four hundred gallons of milk per week.
Prabhupāda: You get from the farm.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Every week we give to New York temple four hundred gallons milk.
Prabhupāda: And you turn into chānā?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Chānā and also milk, straight as milk. The devotees get sufficient milk, and also cheese for cooking.
Prabhupāda: Sandeśa, rasagullā.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, yes. All of the sweets are made very... New York... In America New York is known for its good milk sweets. Brahmānanda was...
Prabhupāda: New Vrindaban also.
Prabhupāda: So wherever we have got center in India, just like this Mahesh Pandit, if we supply them the chānā dāl and puri and halavā and nice, what is called, puṣpānna, his great-grandfather will come to eat.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Wow. They'll give up all their fish-eating, that whole community.
Prabhupāda: So from this milk powder we can make this chānā and dahi, and ghee is there.
Bali-mardana: Chānā.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Cheese.
Prabhupāda: Cheese. And you produce in the farm milk and utilize and give the cows protection.
Harikeśa: I was thinking also that Gopāla Kṛṣṇa could buy the milk powder from Bali-mardana by printing books for him. He could print the books in India for Australia...
Prabhupāda: I have suggested already, already suggested that "Take milk powder and ghee from Australia, and every center distribute prasādam like anything." And in India at least, if you give them nice puri and chānā preparation and sweet preparation from milk, oh, they'll be so glad, both poor man and rich man. Yesterday I was eating kacuris. What is this kacuri? Made of ghee. Samosā, made of ghee; rasagullā, made of... Cow is so important. She can deliver so many nice preparations, sweet and salty. The whole world does not know how to eat. Like rākṣasas they are killing the poor animals. So we have to teach. This is an introduction of new type of civilization for making life successful.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What is the speciality in Punjab?
Prabhupāda: Punjab, this pilau.(?)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: What is...
Prabhupāda: Panir.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Panir.
Prabhupāda: Means this chānā.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: They make very nice preparation.
Bhakti-caru: Dundhuri (?) preparation.
Prabhupāda: Every province has got.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Is there a speciality in the Madhya Pradesh area?
Prabhupāda: Madhya Pradesh, they are practically South Indian.
Rāmeśvara: For now he's going alone. They are very interested in haṭha-yoga also, and he knows something of it, so he teaches them. The prince and the princess have already become vegetarian.
Prabhupāda: And they are not making any chānā preparation?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Are they cooking anything with chānā in it? No chānā preparations? Chick peas.
Prabhupāda: Not...
Hari-śauri: Complan is milk-mixed. At least there doesn't seem to be any mucus this morning, and this is a full day now since you took that chānā.
Prabhupāda: The chānā was nothing. So? What do you want to do now?
Bhakti-caru: Should we make you some Complan now, Śrīla Prabhupāda, and some chānā?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: We've been giving him Complan for a month. Four times a day is too much.
Bhakti-caru: No. In the morning with some warm drink.
Prabhupāda: You give me Complan.
Bhakti-caru: And little chānā, Śrīla Prabhupāda? Like yesterday? Okay.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You'll take chānā after bathing, washing face, and...? That's when you took it yesterday. Every one of us is in agreement. All of your disciples are in agreement that you require to force yourself to eat and drink more. What can we do if you don't...
Prabhupāda: When I don't take anything, I feel more comfortable.
| Page Title: | Chana |
| Compiler: | MadhuGopaldas, Serene |
| Created: | 27 of Mar, 2012 |
| Totals by Section: | BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=1, Con=13, Let=0 |
| No. of Quotes: | 14 |