Guest (2): One thing I have been thinking for years together, but I could never understand it. In Bhagavad-gītā when Lord Kṛṣṇa..., Arjuna asks a question, kena prayukto 'yaṁ pāpaṁ carati pūruṣaḥ. Lord Kṛṣṇa says, kāma eṣa krodha eṣa rajo-guṇa-samudbhavaḥ. The kāma... Where is the beginning of this kāma?
Prabhupāda: Rajo-guṇa. That is stated, rajo-guṇa. (Hindi) Rajo-guṇa-samudbhavaḥ. Therefore you have to come to the sattva-guṇa. Sattva-guṇa, to come to the sattva-guṇa, you have to sāttvika vikāra (Hindi)... They are described in the Bhagavad-gītā. Brahma-karma svabhāva-jam (BG 18.42). That is sattva-guṇa. Satyaṁ śaucam.
Guest (2): Guṇa... (Hindi)
Prabhupāda: Guṇa, develop. They are... They are developing these brahminical qualifications, coming to sattva-guṇa. From rajo-guṇa, tamo-guṇa, they are coming to sattva-guṇa. Sthitaṁ sattve prasīdati. Tadā rajas-tamo-bhāvāḥ kāma-lobhādayaś ca ye (SB 1.2.19). Tadā rajas-tamo-bhāvāḥ. Rajas-tamaḥ, these qualities are manifested by lust and greediness. Tadā rajas-tamo-bhāvāḥ kāma-lobhādayaś ca ye, ceta etair anāviddhaṁ sthitaṁ sattve prasīdati. When one's heart will not be disturbed by these two qualities, tamo-guṇa and rajo-guṇa, then he will be situated in sattva-guṇa. Ceta etair anāviddhaṁ sthitaṁ sattve prasīdati. Then he becomes satisfied. At that time he becomes jolly. Evaṁ prasanna-manaso bhagavad-bhakti-yogataḥ, bhagavat-tattva-vijñānaṁ mukta-saṅgasya jāyate (SB 1.2.20). When he becomes jolly, being situated in sattva-guṇa, at that time he can understand what is bhagavat-tattva, what is the Absolute Truth, not in the rajo-guṇa, tamo-guṇa. That is not possible. That is also confirmed in Bhagavad-gītā,
- brahma-bhūtaḥ prasannātmā
- na śocati na kāṅkṣati
- samaḥ sarveṣu bhūteṣu
- mad-bhaktiṁ labhate parām
- (BG 18.54)
- bhaktyā mām abhijānāti
- yāvān yaś cāsmi tattvataḥ
- (indistinct)
- (BG 18.55)
Guest (2): The problem is most of the time we spend our life in rajo-guṇa.
Prabhupāda: Huh?
Guest (2): The problem is most of the time...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest (2): ...life goes in rajo-guṇa.
Prabhupāda: Tamo-guṇa, rajo-guṇa.
Guest (2): Tamo and rajo-guṇa. (Hindi)
Prabhupāda: (Hindi)
Śyāmasundara: Do you want us to distribute this? Śrīla Prabhupāda, this is special water from the Ganges if you want to drink some.
Prabhupāda: I have taken it, little. That's all. (pause) Harer nāma, harer nāma (CC Adi 17.21). (pause) So tomorrow you are all invited. Please come. You are also invited.
Śyāmasundara: A special ceremony tomorrow.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest (2): Can we get one picture of the group?
Prabhupāda: Yes, sit down. No.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Śrīla Prabhupāda, (Hindi)
Prabhupāda: (Hindi)
Guest (2): Why don't you all move and please stand... (Hindi) Can some of them stand over that side?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest (2): Why don't you... You could come on this side and ladies over there. You people have to sit on your knees. I am sorry. I think I'll take one group, some people, and then do some other. (Some time passes.)
Prabhupāda: So it is a happy meeting?
Guest (6): Yes, Mahārāja is converting (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: Ācchā. Please come tomorrow. (Hindi) What time you have given them, any time?
Satsvarūpa: Yes. The ceremony is in the morning but if they can't make it, all day long we'll be distributing prasādam. Come and see the Deities.
Prabhupāda: Yes, any time you can convince him to come. Hare Kṛṣṇa. (Hindi)
Guest (6): Thank you. (Hindi) (end)