Prabhupāda: Others, painful condition. If you feel pain by certain condition, that is . . .
Dr. Patel: Ātmavat sarva bhūteṣu.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Girirāja: "Generally it is seen that one who has risen from a poverty-stricken life and becomes wealthy creates some charitable institution at the end of his life . . ." (break)
Prabhupāda: . . . goes to market and gets some this . . . what is called, bhūta, bhūta?
Dr. Patel: What is, bhūta,
Yaśomatīnandana: Corns.
Prabhupāda: Corns. (break)
Dr. Patel: Corn, or this . . .
Yaśomatīnandana: Mottai? . . . (indistinct)
Dr. Patel: But that is why I say that rasanā (tongue) is not so strong as śiṣṇa (genital).
Prabhupāda: No, if you do not allow rasanā to enjoy much, śiṣṇa will be subdued.
Dr. Patel: But still, I mean personally, for myself, I don't have any taste for any food. In fact I have been taking all the food together just like the sannyāsīs, and I don't have any taste. But still I have from within me I don't find that form of sex carrying out, even though I am a scientist.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Caitanya Mahāprabhu used to say that, "Sex life is so strong that even if I see one wooden female form I become excited."
Dr. Patel: That is why I feel the same thing.
Prabhupāda: Yes. So this is not unnatural. Caitanya Mahāprabhu tells this because this cannot be avoided. But by knowledge it can be avoided.
Dr. Patel: We were talking the same thing.
Prabhupāda: Yes, by knowledge. Yes. But "Because I am excited, therefore I have to do this," that is not good.
Dr. Patel: But then I found out the solution for this. As soon as you feel excitement . . . (break) Then you have nothing to do with it.
Prabhupāda: Therefore knowledge.
Dr. Patel: Yes. That I have started practicing this for some time. And I feel a great solace in that.