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By propaganda you can establish a false thing as real. That's all. This is going on

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"By propaganda you can establish a false thing as real. That's all. This is going on"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1975 Conversations and Morning Walks

If you make propaganda, if he's not ghost, you can make him ghost. That's all. This is propaganda. This is called propaganda. By propaganda you can establish a false thing as real. That's all. This is going on. They know how to do it. They're expert, because they're cheaters. They know how to do it.

Haṁsadūta: The more advanced scientists, the more up-to-date ones, they reject this whole Darwin thing. But it's become so ingraded in the minds of the people that they have published, this Life, Time Magazine, they publish millions of books and sell it. People read about ape man, that the man came from the ape and so on. It's become such a popular, it's like a fairy tale.

Prabhupāda: Propaganda. It is propaganda, that's all. By propaganda, you can do any false thing you can describe. This is called. . . propaganda is called in Bengali, dasha cakre bhagavan bhutha. Dasha cakre bhagavan bhutha. Bhagavan . . . one gentleman's name was Bhagavan, and his friend conspired that "Let us make us some joke that he has become ghost." So wherever he was going, the friend: "Oh, oh, a ghost, ghost, ghost, ghost!" (laughter) "No, no, I am not ghost; I am . . ." "No, no. Ghost." . . . (indistinct) . . . they, "This man has become crazy. Why he calling me ghost? I am not ghost." Then he goes another friend, then he also says like that: "Oh, here is a ghost, here is a ghost, here is a ghost!" (laughter) Then third friend, everyone, because they have conspired. Then he began to think, "I must have become ghost. (laughter) So certainly I'm . . . all friends have calling me 'ghost, ghost.' " That is dasha cakre bhagavan. If you make propaganda, if he's not ghost, you can make him ghost. That's all. This is propaganda. This is called propaganda. By propaganda you can establish a false thing as real. That's all. This is going on. They know how to do it. They're expert, because they're cheaters. They know how to do it.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Cheating business.

Prabhupāda: That's all. This is going on. Even something which is . . . just like our Śyāmasundara has become victim. This rascal has given him some stone, and "It is very valuable," and he's jumping: "Very valuable." And has taken ten lakhs of rupees. This pakkā propaganda has . . . (indistinct) . . . and he has taken victim. That's all. He's not in his sense, even now that, "If he has given me real gem, why I am unable to sell it for the last three, four years?" (laughter) Such a foolish.

Devotee: He's saying that he has to create the market.

Prabhupāda: Good things, does it require? That is propaganda. You have got some false thing, you have to make propaganda to prove it that it is real.

Devotee: That is the proof it is false.

Prabhupāda: Yes. And this man has taken money for . . . and he cannot supply even maintenance for his wife and girl. You have seen Mālatī?

Devotee: Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.

Prabhupāda: Not properly dressed. And this poor girl is not properly dressed. And he's thinking he'll be millionaire.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. His head is in the clouds.

Haṁsadūta: I think Bali-mardana became infected by Śyāmasundara. He saw that Śyāmasundara was going to be a millionaire, so then he had to also become a millionaire. So he got Mrs. Toyota.

Prabhupāda: (chuckles) He got a cheat wife. Eh? Mother said she cheated that, "I am twenty-six years."

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: So many things she cheated.

Prabhupāda: Simply cheated.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: But he wanted to be cheated.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Daughter . . . (indistinct) . . . and grand-daughter, all cheaters. Therefore in the United Nation . . . (indistinct)

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: She cannot speak Japanese.

Prabhupāda: Everything cheated.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: She even said that she had four stillborn children. And we went to the hospital and there was no record of her having even been admitted into the hospital. Bali-mardana, she told him to wait downstairs while she gave birth to the four children, and then two hours later she came down, she said: "Now it is finished." And he took her and drove away.

Prabhupāda: Mesmerized.

Brahmānanda: And there was talk that you had said that those four stillborn children were incarnations of Viṣṇu.

Prabhupāda: Anyway, she was think that "By cheating this man I am becoming successful." Then she, without any restriction, she began to cheat.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah.

Prabhupāda: And because he was Mahārāja, so he became . . . she became Mahārānī.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Queen. But still he's being fooled by her. (pause) Those birds, I think, are the ones from the cage.

Brahmānanda: Pigeons. Doves.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Because they're being fed they'll agree to be . . .

Prabhupāda: . . . put in cage. They'll be free. They can go away or no.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Just like the human beings are like that.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Yaśodānandana: Do you think that as the Kali-yuga progresses the people are getting smaller, does this mean that Kṛṣṇa and His associates were much taller in stature than we are now?

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Yaśodānandana: They were much bigger.

Prabhupāda: You have seen that Rādhā-Dāmodara temple, Kṛṣṇa footprint impression.

Devotee: That means Kṛṣṇa must have been fifteen or twenty feet tall?

Prabhupāda: (indistinct) . . . but it is a fact, formerly people were taller. We have seen. In our childhood we have seen, when European, they were very tall.

Devotee (2): They were taller and they lived longer.

Devotee: That story about King Mucukunda, when he was sleeping in the cave and he came out of the cave and looked outside and he said: "Oh, it must be Kali-yuga," because the trees were smaller and . . .

Prabhupāda: Do you . . . (indistinct) . . . the mango trees now? Some of the trees, just like the lemon tree, stunted. In Japan they grow many trees.

Devotee (2): In Japan they cultivate trees to be like that, very small. They have little orange trees.

Brahmānanda: Miniatures.

Devotee (2): Orange trees are this big, orange trees.

Prabhupāda: They are also becoming oranges. Japanese are dwarfs.

Haṁsadūta: The Japanese and Chinese are very, very small.

Prabhupāda: (indistinct) . . . (break) . . . Bengal especially. There is a proverb, kalo brahmaṇa kata śūdra bete mussulman kalki chele puṣṭi putra . . . (indistinct) . . . a brāhmaṇa, black . . . Brāhmaṇa's another name is śukla, white. So as soon as a brāhmaṇa is black, then he's bastard. Kalo brāhmaṇa. Kota śūdra, and śūdra . . . just like African, if they become white, there is something mystery. Kalo brāhmaṇa kata śūdra bete mussulman. And Muhammadan . . . because Muhammadan means the Afghans; they are very tall. So a Mussulman is dwarf, a brāhmaṇa is black, the śūdra is white, kalo brāhmaṇa kota śūdra bete mussulman, and kalki chelo, that means the bastard, and puṣṭi putra, and adopted son, these are all of the same class. Adopted son, he gets money without any labor, he spends like anything. In your country there is adopted son?

Haṁsadūta: Yeah, yeah.

Prabhupāda: Here there are many adopted son. A rich man has no son, he adopts somebody, rascal, and he spends money like . . . there are so many instance. Squanders it. He'll be satisfied after finishing even. There are many instances. In our childhood, many you have heard, we have seen one, when the adopted son, he gets big property, and he was not satisfied to squander all the money unless it became a pauper. That I've seen. He had many cars, and I saw him, he was drenched by water, rainfall, sitting in a rickshaw. Nobody cares for him. When he was rich, big, big men would come to see him, even Burdwan Mahārāja. Now I saw him that he was in Dharmatala, it was raining and he was sitting in a rickshaw. Nobody cares for him. And he was satisfied at that time after finishing the whole money. Otherwise, hundreds and two hundred friends, there was very big house, bring, I mean to say, received as guests daily . . . . (indistinct) . . . his name was Arendranath Sil.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: That's a Hindu name?

Prabhupāda: Yes. Bengali.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Seal?

Prabhupāda: Sil. Sil means cultured. A cultured man is called sil. Sushil. Sushil means very cultured, very . . . Sushil. So kalo brahm . . . this is unnatural. Kalo brāhmaṇa kota śūdra bete mussulman, kanki chele puṣṭi putra . . . (indistinct) . . . now generally people, we saw in our childhood, Europeans were very tall, and now they are not coming typical so. Naturally when they'll not get sufficient nourishment, they'll be stunted. And Kali-yuga means decrease of nourishment, necessities of life decreasing. We see in such a rich man's house, there is no milk. Milk is one of the important nourishment foods. And there is no milk. So gradually there'll be no milk, no rice, no wheat, no sugar. These are stated. Where you'll get nourishment? And the mango, there'll be no pulp, only the seed. These are predicted. After all, you have to live by nature's gift, but these things will be finished. And Russia there is, already, there is no rice, there is no fruit, there is no vegetable. Simply we eat meat.

Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Therefore they cannot understand God.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Not they. They understand, the people understand. But this, this rascal government. That I have studied. Russian people are not bad. They're as good as others. But this is . . . just like in India, still the mass of people, they're very good. And too mu. . . yesterday we saw, all rascals, all these politician canvassing, all big, big fat rascals.

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