Dhṛṣṭadyumna: Mahārāja, did you show that article to...?
Prabhupāda: Why do you speak in the middle? You should hear. Yaj-jihvāgre nāma tubham, yan-nāma śruti-mātrena pumān bhavati nirmalaḥ. And this rascals says the nāma has no.... See. We have to meet simply rascals all over. The so-called religionists, so-called swamis, so-called yogis, so-called politicians. You see? Simply we have to meet with all rascals.
Indian man: No, he was reminding me of this Jyoti Mahārāja showing that article on Kṛṣṇa Jayantī day to the reading out to the entire audience. That was a rubbish.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Oh, read to the whole audience.
Prabhupāda: He was reading?
Indian man: Ah, that is what he reminds me, because I said the incident which I had with him.... On Kṛṣṇa Jayantī day I did not go there. But on that day it was being read out. That was the silly part of it.
Yaśodānandana: So Prabhupāda, these same people that...
Prabhupāda: So what is the wrong there? What was the wrong?
Indian man: No, he said that "This movement has got these black sheep, and they have been banned in Japan. Everywhere they will be banned."
Prabhupāda: But there is something in Japan which is banned. But what you have got in Japan?
Indian man: Nothing.
Yaśodānandana: First of all, we are not even banned in Japan. The center is still there.
Prabhupāda: No, no, that's all right. Banned means we had something. But what proof you have got that you have done something in Japan?
Indian man: There is something; there is nothing.
Prabhupāda: So it is better. Just like one man said that "I have lost fifty thousand this year." His friend said, "You are still fortunate, because you had fifty thousand. But I have no fifty paisa even."
Indian man: So there is something. Here nothing.
Prabhupāda: "So you are so fortunate that you could suffer the loss of fifty thousand, but I have nothing to lose."