Prabhupāda: So this virāṭ-rūpa is subordinate. Darśayāmāsa hari. Hari is the supreme. And the virāṭ-rūpa is a feature, not that virāṭ-rūpa is original.
Dr. Patel: One of the features of His multiple features.
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes. Virāṭ-rūpa. Not that the... Māyāvādīs take the virāṭ-rūpa is the origin, and this rūpa, Kṛṣṇa, that is māyā. Therefore they are called Māyāvādīs. But actually, Hari manifested or exhibited...
Dr. Patel: One of his multiple...
Prabhupāda: Multiple features.
Dr. Patel:
- aneka-vaktra-nayanam
- anekādbhuta-darśanam
- aneka-divyābharaṇaṁ
- divyānekodyatāyudham
- divya-mālyāmbara-dharaṁ
- divya-gandhānulepanam
- sarvāścarya-mayaṁ devam
- anantaṁ viśvato-mukham
- (Bg. 11.10-11)
- divi sūrya-sahasrasya
- bhaved yugapad utthitā
- yadi bhāḥ sadṛśī sā syād
- bhāsas tasya mahātmanaḥ
- (BG 11.12)
- He had thousands and millions of features.
- tatraika-sthaṁ jagat kṛtsnaṁ
- pravibhaktam anekadhā
- apaśyad deva-devasya
- śarīre pāṇḍavas tadā
- (BG 11.13)
- tataḥ sa vismayāviṣṭo
- hṛṣṭa-romā dhanañjayaḥ
- praṇamya śirasā devaṁ
- kṛtāñjalir abhāṣata
- (BG 11.14)
Now Arjuna said. Shall I read further?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: Arjuna uvāca. These boys understand this, all of them?
Prabhupāda: Yes. No, I will explain.
Dr. Patel: Now Arjuna says, paśyāmi devāṁs tava deva dehe sarvāṁs tathā bhūta-viśeṣa...
Prabhupāda: Devāṁs, devāṁs, tava deva dehe means "devas, the demigods, they are part and parcel of Your virāṭa-rupa." They are not independent. Just like this finger is part of my this whole body, similarly, all these devas, these demigods... That is explained previously. Ye 'py anya-devatā bhaktā yajante śraddhayānvitāḥ, te 'pi mām eva. If you give something to my finger, that is to be given to my body, but that is avidhi-pūrvakam. The thing's to be given to the mouth, not in the hand. But their logic is, because everything is the same, why not here? That is Māyāvāda. Yes.