Dr. Patel: Both imperson and person. Svakarmaṇā tam abhyarcya siddhiṁ vindati mānavaḥ. Now that girl, the doctor lady, you choked the other day in the morning, she, poor thing wanted that "I am practicing the medicine and serving people," and you call her a fool, "You are a damn fool." Well, she's doing the...
Prabhupāda: She is not serving. She's serving her... Everyone is serving money, money.
Dr. Patel: Svakarmaṇā tam abhyarcya siddhiṁ vindati...
Prabhupāda: That's all right. This serving, everyone is serving. Unless he pays, no service. That is not service.
Guest (1): If we expect payment...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest (1): Karmaṇy evādhikāras te mā phaleṣu kadācana.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Here, service, Kṛṣṇa is...
Dr. Patel: (Hindi) Do you want to throw it up in the sea?
Prabhupāda: No, no. It is, everyone in this material world, serving somebody. Serving somebody. Because he is servant.
Dr. Patel: He's serving somebody or everybody. More or less it is...
Prabhupāda: No, no. No. Everybody or somebody. "Everyone's servant is nobody's servant." That is an English proverb. Anyway, this service is required. You cannot live without serving. That is not possible. Anyone of us, serving somebody. But the result is, this material service... I have given several times the example that Mahatma Gandhi, he gave so much service. But result was he was killed. He was killed. Nobody thought... That person did not think that, "Oh, this gentleman, old man, he has given so much service to us. Suppose I do not agree with him. Oh, how can I kill?" So people are so much ingrateful. You see? That whatever service you may render, they'll never be satisfied.