Guest (1): Ah. We want to live and enjoy, therefore this universe and all these things. Now, in what perfect form? Because everywhere, in everything, there is a best. Now how everything should take?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes.
Guest (1): The universal form should come to the best. That is the point.
Prabhupāda: Don't talk of universal form. First of all talk of your form. Try to understand your form. Then go universal.
Guest (1): Am I separate from matter.
Prabhupāda: You are not separate. Are you not separate? Then why you are talking with me? Are you not separate with me? Why you have come to inquire from me?
Guest (1): No, no, because we...
Prabhupāda: First of all try to... Are you not separate from me?
Guest (1): In material way, yes.
Prabhupāda: Any way. Any way, are you not separate from me?
Guest (1): Yes, every drop is separate from one another.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. Every individual person is separate from one another, every individual person. So how do you say they are one?
Guest (1): Every individual is separate, but when we come in the prema...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest (1): Then every person, until it is the best...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest (1): ...is just an object of...(?)
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is possible. Even... Don't think that when that stage will come there will be no individuality.
Guest (1): Individuality will be there. I do not say that it will not be there.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest (1): What I was saying was particular individual in a particular way. Therefore the shape of world is in today is off. But if every individual takes the destined way, which is good enough for every person, then all things can change at once.
Prabhupāda: Now, why do you way that thinking will be stopped?
Guest (1): I do not say, sir. I...
Prabhupāda: So then you say who will think? Thinking will be there, individuality will be there, but there will be no disagreement.
Guest (1): Individuality will be there for the self as well as for all.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest (1): That is what I mean.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest (1): Now, how that kind of living or what kind of religion is that, on that...
Prabhupāda: That you have to learn from the authorized Vedic literature. You cannot imagine. You cannot speculate. You have to learn from authority.
Guest (1): Authority...
Prabhupāda: Yes. Suppose if you want to go to Germany. Now you have no idea how the German people live or their, how they are, what is their culture. So you have to learn. Here is a boy, German. You have to learn from him what kind of life there is. Similarly, there is a life like that. Now, what kind of life that is, we have to ask from a person who has realized that life.