Prabhupāda: What is the control? It is already there. It is not under your control.
Śyāmasundara: Their idea is that they can make xerox copies of whatever type of personality they like.
Prabhupāda: That's right; xerox copy means the original sample is already there. So what is the credit there?
Devotee: There may be only one very, very intelligent person, but by their method they may think that they may create a whole society.
Śyāmasundara: I'll read you some of their predictions. They're very frightening. They say by 1980—that's eight years from now—that they will be able to create synthetic life in the form of artificial viruses which will be used to cure some forms of genetic diseases. Artificial life. In eight years they say they will have artificial life.
Prabhupāda: And that artificial life?
Śyāmasundara: Small viruses or living organisms, very small. But by the year 2000 they say they will be able to keep...
Prabhupāda: 2000!
Śyāmasundara: Yes. That's twenty-eight years from now. They say that they will be able to deep-freeze embryos, that means unborn babies, as insurance against nuclear holocaust and for interplanetary colonization. In other words, they can send these unborn babies in frozen form to other planets and have an arrangement for them to be born and grow in the spaceship and then go out.
Prabhupāda: Don't waste your time with these rascals.
Śyāmasundara: They'll have an artificial and mechanical baby factory, effective control of most human defects. Single-celled life will be created from chemicals off the shelf. They can make intelligent animals to do menial work. And then in seventy-eight years they say that they will be able to regenerate...
Prabhupāda: Just like there was Pan American, they were selling tickets for going to Candraloka. Reservation.
Atreya Ṛṣi: Prabhupāda, is it possible that man could ever make even a one-celled living being?
Prabhupāda: Even if he makes, what is credit there? Cells are already there. What is the question of making?
Śyāmasundara: All they're doing is creating the conditions for the jīva to enter, actually. Isn't it?
Prabhupāda: Whatever their proposal, these things are already there. So even they can create something, xerox copy, what is the credit?
Śyāmasundara: But then they'll have control over it. That's their...
Prabhupāda: No, no control, because you are beginning from something on which you have no control. So where is your control?
Śyāmasundara: "From now on I am the master. I can create more Einsteins. I can create many Einsteins."
Prabhupāda: But first of all keep Einstein living. Why he is dying?
Śyāmasundara: That's on their program too.
Prabhupāda: That's on their program—that is is another foolish thing.