Brahmānanda: Bhaktivinoda Ṭhākura also says that the modern education makes men just like an ass.
Prabhupāda: That is, I am explaining.
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Just like this . . . what is called? Anthropology?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Astrology?
Prabhupāda: Darwin's . . .?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Dar . . . Darwin? Oh, naturalists.
Prabhupāda: No, no. There are . . .
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Oh, archaeologists?
Prabhupāda: No, no. Anthropology. There's a department . . .
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Anthropologists studies with the skulls and . . .
Prabhupāda: Oh, oh. This is . . .
Karandhara: Ecology?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes. Anthropology.
Prabhupāda: It is a false theory, and upon this so many university are spending money, professors.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Thousands of dollars.
Prabhupāda: Thousands. Rascal theory. You see? In this way, they're wasting money. Śrama eva hi kevalam (SB 1.2.8). Aviśuddha-buddhayaḥ (SB 10.2.32).
Karandhara: They always have to revise their theories, because about every few years they find something new which contradicts everything they have said before.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is their intelligence.
Brahmānanda: And they think that's progress.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Progress in one sense. Because they're rascals, making little progress.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Advancing in the wrong direction.
Prabhupāda: But the real progress is when they will understand that, "We are rascals." (laughter) That will be real progress, when they come to understand that, "We are all fools and rascals." That will be real progress. Just like Caitanya Mahāprabhu presented Himself that, "My Guru Mahārāja found Me a rascal number one." Yes. That is real progress.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Science is nearing that stage. Science . . .
Prabhupāda: (laughs) Because they're going to accept that they're all rascals? That will be the real progress. Bahūnāṁ janmanām ante jñānavān māṁ prapadyate (BG 7.19). So after many, many births of rascaldom, when he comes to Kṛṣṇa and surrenders, "Yes. Vāsudevaḥ sarvam iti (BG 7.19). He is everything," that is real knowledge.