Prabhupāda: That is wanted. It doesn't matter. Nanda Mahārāja, a vaiśya. Arjuna is a kṣatriya. And there are many śūdras also. So what is that goat-caṇḍāla. He was a caṇḍāla. But everyone has got the right to become a devotee. That is wanted. (break) . . . tanu-vāṅ-manobhiḥ (SB 10.14.3). Remain in your place, but giving aural reception to the Kṛṣṇa message, you become a devotee. That is our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. We don't ask anybody to change. We want to make him transcendental. Sa guṇān samatītyaitān brahma-bhūyāya kalpate (BG 14.26). (break) Brahma-stuta śruti-kārayan. Now, in the brahma-stuta, śruti-kārayan, brahma-stute, yaṁ brahma, beginning . . . so that is yaṁ brahma. Then simply if you recite, yaṁ brahma . . . you must know who is that yam. And that is being explained by Kṛṣṇa. Here is that yam: Kṛṣṇa.
Dr. Patel: Vasudeva, bolo.
Child: (chants verse in Sanskrit)
Prabhupāda: Devakī ānandam.
Dr. Patel: Kṛṣṇaṁ vande jagat guru.
Prabhupāda: Yaṁ brahma-varuṇendra-rudraḥ stunvanti divyaiḥ stavaiḥ (SB 12.13.1). Sometimes the impersonalists argue, "If nobody has seen Him, then where is His form?" But here is. Brahmā, yaṁ brahma. Here is Brahmā is praying. So why you say nobody has seen? Brahmā has seen. Therefore he is offering.
Dr. Patel: Bolo asitagirā samaṁsyāt. He'll recite half a dozen.
Prabhupāda: That's right. Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Child: (chants more Sanskrit verses)
Prabhupāda: Idhar toh kuch prasad hai nahi. Tameva mata bolo. (There is no prasāda here to give. Recite Tvameva mata.)
Child: (chants more verses)
Prabhupāda: Isko arth bhi bata dena. (Tell him the verses meaning also.)
Dr. Patel: He wants to study Sanskrit from now, when I read all those books. But his father has put him directly in English medium. It becomes very difficult. I have to take him out and now he can read Sanskrit. You can read.
Prabhupāda: English medium, Sanskrit.
Dr. Patel: English medium, the intelligence gets baffled, because it is not a mother language.
Prabhupāda: Aurobindo Ghosh studied English from the very beginning.
Dr. Patel: But he was extremely clever. He studied then Gujarati, not even Bengali. After he came from England . . .
Prabhupāda: He came to Gujarati. No. He came to Baroda.
Dr. Patel: Then he studied Gujarati, but he did not know Bengali at all. And then he came . . . (break) annam brahma vyajanat, what is that? (break)
Prabhupāda: . . . annam brahma vyajant (Taittirīya Upaniṣad 3.2) From our childhood, if there was a rice grain on the floor, my father and my mother would ask me, "Take it and touch it on your head."
Dr. Patel: Yes. We were advised not to tread on the grains. (break)
Prabhupāda: Because by chance, if the grain is struck with the leg, she asked, "Take it and touch it on the head."
Dr. Patel: That is the culture . . . (indistinct) . . . culture.
Prabhupāda: Means from the very beginning he understands anna-brahma.
Dr. Patel: Even it is not spoken, you practice it.
Prabhupāda: Yes, practice it. According to Vedic culture, the higher class, in every home there is nārāyaṇa-śilā for worship, especially of the brāhmins.
Dr. Patel: In our homes we have all these small such temples, small chapels. All of us, our homes have got one room specially for Kṛṣṇa mūrti and . . . (indistinct) . . . for pūjā only. (break)
Prabhupāda: We say ṭhākura-ghara. Ṭhākura-ghara. That ṭhākura-ghara must be there, not only simply a lavatory. There must be one ṭhākura-ghara.
Dr. Patel: In all our homes.