Shyamasundar: A person gets to . . . meets the spiritual master, by the grace Kṛṣṇa? Then he has . . . (indistinct) . . . desires and . . . (indistinct) . . . Kṛṣṇa guidance?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Yes. Kṛṣṇa is always with you. When you are anxious for Kṛṣṇa, or God, then Kṛṣṇa will give you direction that "You please go to that person who is My representative." So Kṛṣṇa will help you from within and without. Therefore spiritual master is supposed to be Kṛṣṇa's representative from without, and Kṛṣṇa is sitting within yourself. So Kṛṣṇa is ready to help you from within and without, provided you are anxious to get that help.
Yes?
Shyamasundar: And as the student is anxious to learn, the spiritual master gives . . .?
Prabhupāda: Certainly. Unless he is anxious to learn, what is the use of going to spiritual master? There is no need. That I already said. Jijñāsuḥ śreya uttamam (SB 11.3.21). One must be very inquisitive. But inquisitive about what? For the supreme benefit. He should be inquisitive to learn the Supreme. Then he has the necessity of searching out or approaching a spiritual master. If there is no such demand, then there is no necessity of going to a spiritual master or accepting a spiritual master.
A spiritual master should not be accepted as a matter of phobia. Just like you keep some pet dog or cat, similarly if you want to keep one spiritual master, there is no profit. You see? You must be qualified to in . . . become inquisitive to understand the spiritual science, and the spiritual master should be also qualified to answer your inquisitiveness. Then the relationship is nice, not one-sided.