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<h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<h3>1973 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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Kṛṣṇa gives example. Tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ. As the soul is changing body, from babyhood to childhood, childhood to boyhood, boyhood to youthhood, like that, similarly, after finishing this body . . . it may be invisible to you, but the subtle body is there. We have got two kinds of bodies. Bhūmir āpo 'nalo vāyuḥ khaṁ mano buddhir eva ca (BG 7.4). This material, eight kinds of materials—earth, water, fire, air, sky, mind, intelligence, ego. So when your body of earth, water, fire, air . . . now in the . . . now here is a medical man. He knows about this body made of earth, water, fire, air. But he does not know, perhaps, the body made of mind, intelligence and ego.
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Prabhupāda: So imperfect senses can give imperfect knowledge. That is not scientific knowledge. What you are thinking scientific knowledge, that is bogus, because the man who has given that knowledge, he's imperfect. How you can expect perfect knowledge from the imperfect person?

Guest: It's a question of degree.

Prabhupāda: Now, degree may be, but ultimately, if you are unable to give perfect knowledge, then what is the use of taking knowledge from you?

Guest: Yes, I accept that view. But how do you prove that a man . . .?

Prabhupāda: Yes, therefore you take from the perfect, Kṛṣṇa. We take from Kṛṣṇa's representative—one who speaks as good as Kṛṣṇa. That is our process. Evaṁ paramparā-prāptam imaṁ rājarṣayo viduḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 4.2 (1972)|BG 4.2]]). We don't take, don't accept knowledge from any rascal. We accept knowledge from Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme. I may be rascal, but because I am receiving knowledge from the perfect, whatever we speak, that is perfect. A child may be innocent; he does not know. But he has learned that this article is called spectacle. So when he says, the child says: "Father, this is spectacle," this is perfect knowledge. Similarly, if you hear from the perfect and act accordingly, then you are perfect. Now Kṛṣṇa says, tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]]). Tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ: after death there is another body. So we accept it. It doesn't require any proof of so-called science, who's imperfect.

Guest (1): So the question of belief comes first.

Prabhupāda: It is not belief; it is fact.

Guest (1): Yes, but if you say fact, how do you prove?

Prabhupāda: This is proof, Kṛṣṇa says.

Guest (1): It has been said by Kṛṣṇa. Yes, but . . .

Prabhupāda: That is our Vedic evidence. Whenever we speak something, immediately quote from Vedas. This is our process. If it is accepted by the Vedic process, then it is perfect. Just like in the law court. You are lawyer. You are arguing. When you quote from a judgment, previous judgment, it is accepted. Similarly, when you give authoritative statement support of your talking, then it is perfect. That is the way. Otherwise, what for these books are there? If it is mental speculation, what is the use of these books? But as soon as we speak something, we immediately support by quoting from Vedic literature. And that is perfect.

And now you have to possess little knowledge. Just like Kṛṣṇa says . . . how Kṛṣṇa is perfect, Kṛṣṇa is giving example, side by side: Yathā, dehino 'smin yathā dehe ([[Vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]]). Asmin dehe, as there is the soul, there is the soul, asmin dehe, and he's having different types of bodies, kaumāraṁ yauvanaṁ jarā, he's changing body from childhood, boyhood, boyhood to youthhood, youthhood to another state. Tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ. Where is the illogical presentation? This is scientific. For an intelligent man, this is scientific. And if he's still dull-headed, then what can be done?

Kṛṣṇa gives example. Tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ. As the soul is changing body, from babyhood to childhood, childhood to boyhood, boyhood to youthhood, like that, similarly, after finishing this body . . . it may be invisible to you, but the subtle body is there. We have got two kinds of bodies. Bhūmir āpo 'nalo vāyuḥ khaṁ mano buddhir eva ca ([[Vanisource:BG 7.4 (1972)|BG 7.4]]). This material, eight kinds of materials—earth, water, fire, air, sky, mind, intelligence, ego. So when your body of earth, water, fire, air . . . now in the . . . now here is a medical man. He knows about this body made of earth, water, fire, air. But he does not know, perhaps, the body made of mind, intelligence and ego. Do you think so? That there is another body, made of mind, intelligence and ego?

Guest (2): Not, not in that sense.

Prabhupāda: Yes. The mind is there. Everyone knows you have got mind, I have got mind. But can you see the mind? Can you see the intelligence?

Guest (2): These are something abstract, you know.

Prabhupāda: No, not abstract. These are material. You have no eyes to see.
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