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<div class="heading">They will never understand. You don't waste your time. Go on with your duty. When they will see that you are actually acting as brāhmaṇa, they will appreciate... But if you don't follow strictly, then it is useless to criticize them also. You are also victim; they are also victim.
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Devotee (7): Prabhupāda, in the movement there is sometimes difficulty, and . . .

Prabhupāda: What is the difficulty? You chant sixteen rounds and follow the regulative . . . Where is the difficulty?

Devotee (7): If they will not accept instruction, then . . .

Cyavana: Then what is your instruction? If they won't accept your instruction, then what is your instruction? Must be bogus. Huh? If your instruction is pure, then they'll accept. If your instruction is not pure, who will accept? I will not accept.

Prabhupāda: No, "Example is better than precept." If you actually follow strictly the rules and regulations and chant sixteen rounds, why they'll not follow? They'll follow. If you are not attending class, if you are not attending ''maṅgala ārati'', if you are not finishing sixteen rounds, then that is bad example.

Brahmānanda: This boy didn't attend ''maṅgala ārati''.

Prabhupāda: Don't set bad example. That is detrimental.

Devotee (7): Śrīla Prabhupāda, is it right for the advanced devotees to chastise?

Prabhupāda: Nobody is advanced. Everyone is student. He must follow. There is no question of advanced.

Devotee (7): I mean, they call ''śūdras'' . . . (indistinct) . . .

Prabhupāda: ''Śūdras''? ''Śūdra'', how he can be devotee? ''Śūdras'' are never devotee.

Indian man (4): No, he says sometimes the devotees, they call the other devotee that "You are ''śūdra''."

Prabhupāda: That is jokingly. (laughter)

Indian man (4): Prabhupāda, sometimes you have said that this ''Gāyatrī'' was first spoken by the Lord, and this is a sound vibration of the Kṛṣṇa's flute, and it was heard by Brahmā. Right? And these ''brāhmaṇas'', so-called ''brāhmaṇas'', they are . . .

Prabhupāda: There is no question of "so-called." We want real ''brāhmaṇa''. That's all. It was heard by the real ''brāhmaṇa'', Brahmā. Brahmā, Brahmā.

Indian man (4): So they worship ''Gāyatrī''. They say it like as a . . .

Prabhupāda: They . . . Whatever they say, you forget that. You do your own duty. You follow the rules and regulation and do the needful. Why you . . .?

Indian man (4): But we have to make them understand very clearly.

Prabhupāda: But they will never understand. You don't waste your time. Go on with your duty. When they will see that you are actually acting as ''brāhmaṇa'', they will appreciate.

Indian lady (3): Time will come. They will notice.

Prabhupāda: Yes, that they will appreciate. But if you don't follow strictly, then it is useless to criticize them also. You are also victim; they are also victim.

Devotee (8): When chanting our sixteen rounds, we are not sure if these rounds are sincere . . .

Prabhupāda: You should be sure.

Devotee (8): How can we be sure?

Prabhupāda: There is beads.

Brahmānanda: No, he's saying that when we chant our rounds, how can we be sure that when we chant the round that the round is a perfect, attentive round, sincere?

Prabhupāda: Therefore it is ''śāstra'': "You must." There is no question of understanding.

Brahmānanda: The quality of the chanting he's asking. How can we make the quality the best?

Prabhupāda: Quality, you'll understand first of all come to the quality. Without having quality, how he'll understand the quality? You follow the instruction of your spiritual master, of the ''śāstra''. That is your duty. Quality, no quality—it is not your position to understand. When the quality comes, there is no force. You will have a taste for chanting. You will desire at that time, "Why sixteen round? Why not sixteen thousand rounds?" That is quality. That is quality. It is by force. You'll not do it; therefore at least sixteen rounds. But when you come to the quality, you will feel yourself, "Why sixteen? Why not sixteen thousand?" That is quality, automatically.
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