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<div class="heading">No. Ete cāṁśa-kalāḥ puṁsaḥ kṛṣṇas tu bhagavān svayam. The list of different incarnations in different ages, they are enlisted in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam and it is summarized in the last verse, ete. Ete means "all these." Ete ca aṁśa-kalāḥ. Aṁśa means "plenary partial expansion." Kalā, "expansion of the expansion." There are many expansions directly from Kṛṣṇa and there are many expansions who are expansions from the expansions. So direct expansion is called aṁśa, and expansion of the expansion is called kalā.
<div class="heading">No. Ete cāṁśa-kalāḥ puṁsaḥ kṛṣṇas tu bhagavān svayam. The list of different incarnations in different ages, they are enlisted in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam and it is summarized in the last verse, ete. Ete means "all these." Ete ca aṁśa-kalāḥ. Aṁśa means "plenary partial expansion." Kalā, "expansion of the expansion." There are many expansions directly from Kṛṣṇa and there are many expansions who are expansions from the expansions. So direct expansion is called aṁśa, and expansion of the expansion is called kalā.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG 4.5 -- Montreal, June 10, 1968|Lecture on BG 4.5 -- Montreal, June 10, 1968]]: </span><div class="text">Mahāpuruṣa: I'm not sure if I understand yet. Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu is svayaṁ bhagavān.
 
 
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Mahāpuruṣa: I'm not sure if I understand yet. Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu is ''svayaṁ bhagavān''.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Mahāpuruṣa: And the appearances of Kṛṣṇa in all the other yugas is also called svayaṁ bhagavān?
Prabhupāda: No. Ete cāṁśa-kalāḥ puṁsaḥ kṛṣṇas tu bhagavān svayam ([[Vanisource:SB 1.3.28|SB 1.3.28]]). The list of different incarnations in different ages, they are enlisted in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam and it is summarized in the last verse, ete. Ete means "all these." Ete ca aṁśa-kalāḥ. Aṁśa means "plenary partial expansion." Kalā, "expansion of the expansion." There are many expansions directly from Kṛṣṇa and there are many expansions who are expansions from the expansions. So direct expansion is called aṁśa, and expansion of the expansion is called kalā.
Mahāpuruṣa: And the appearances of Kṛṣṇa in all the other ''yugas'' is also called ''svayaṁ bhagavān''? . . . (indistinct)
Just like Mahā-Viṣṇu. Mahā-Viṣṇu is expansion of the expansion. The direct expansion is Baladeva. The next expansion is Saṅkarṣaṇa. The next expansion is the catur-vyūha. In this way, Viṣṇu, Mahā-Viṣṇu, is expansion of the expansion, kalā. Yasyaika-niśvasita-kālam athāvalambya jīvanti loma-vilajā jagad-aṇḍa-nāthāḥ (Bs. 5.48). Yasya kalā-viśeṣaḥ. Kalā means expansion of the expansion. That Mahā-Viṣṇu is kalā of Kṛṣṇa. Govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi **.
So not necessarily all appearances of Kṛṣṇa is direct or He, Himself. There are expansions and expansion of the expansion. That is clearly explained. Ete ca aṁśa-kalāḥ. Some of them are direct, some of them are indirect. But this word Kṛṣṇa is, kṛṣṇas tu, He is but the Supreme Person. Bhagavān svayam, the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
Prabhupāda: No. ''Ete cāṁśa-kalāḥ puṁsaḥ kṛṣṇas tu bhagavān svayam'' ([[Vanisource:SB 1.3.28|SB 1.3.28]]). The list of different incarnations in different ages, they are enlisted in the ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam'', and it is summarized in the last verse, ''ete''. ''Ete'' means "all these." ''Ete ca aṁśa-kalāḥ''. ''Aṁśa'' means "plenary partial expansion." ''Kalā'', "expansion of the expansion." There are many expansions directly from Kṛṣṇa and there are many expansions who are expansions from the expansions. So direct expansion is called ''aṁśa'', and expansion of the expansion is called ''kalā''.
Just like Mahā-Viṣṇu. Mahā-Viṣṇu is expansion of the expansion. The direct expansion is Baladeva. The next expansion is Saṅkarṣaṇa. The next expansion is the ''catur-vyūha''. In this way, Viṣṇu, Mahā-Viṣṇu, is expansion of the expansion, ''kalā''. ''Yasyaika-niśvasita-kālam athāvalambya jīvanti loma-vilajā jagad-aṇḍa-nāthāḥ'' ([[Vanisource:Bs. 5.48|Bs. 5.48]]). ''Yasya kalā-viśeṣaḥ''. ''Kalā'' means expansion of the expansion. That Mahā-Viṣṇu is ''kalā'' of Kṛṣṇa. ''Govindam Adi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi'' . . .
So not necessarily all appearances of Kṛṣṇa is direct or He, Himself. There are expansions and expansion of the expansion. That is clearly explained. ''Ete ca aṁśa-kalāḥ''. Some of them are direct, some of them are indirect. But this word "Kṛṣṇa" is, ''kṛṣṇas tu'', He is but the Supreme Person. ''Bhagavān svayam'', the Supreme Personality of Godhead.</p>
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"And the appearances of Kṛṣṇa in all the other yugas is also called svayaṁ bhagavān" |"I'm not sure if I understand yet. Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu is svayaṁ bhagavān"

Lectures

Bhagavad-gita As It Is Lectures

No. Ete cāṁśa-kalāḥ puṁsaḥ kṛṣṇas tu bhagavān svayam. The list of different incarnations in different ages, they are enlisted in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam and it is summarized in the last verse, ete. Ete means "all these." Ete ca aṁśa-kalāḥ. Aṁśa means "plenary partial expansion." Kalā, "expansion of the expansion." There are many expansions directly from Kṛṣṇa and there are many expansions who are expansions from the expansions. So direct expansion is called aṁśa, and expansion of the expansion is called kalā.


Lecture on BG 4.5 -- Montreal, June 10, 1968:

Mahāpuruṣa: I'm not sure if I understand yet. Lord Caitanya Mahāprabhu is svayaṁ bhagavān.

Prabhupāda: Yes.

Mahāpuruṣa: And the appearances of Kṛṣṇa in all the other yugas is also called svayaṁ bhagavān? . . . (indistinct)

Prabhupāda: No. Ete cāṁśa-kalāḥ puṁsaḥ kṛṣṇas tu bhagavān svayam (SB 1.3.28). The list of different incarnations in different ages, they are enlisted in the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, and it is summarized in the last verse, ete. Ete means "all these." Ete ca aṁśa-kalāḥ. Aṁśa means "plenary partial expansion." Kalā, "expansion of the expansion." There are many expansions directly from Kṛṣṇa and there are many expansions who are expansions from the expansions. So direct expansion is called aṁśa, and expansion of the expansion is called kalā.

Just like Mahā-Viṣṇu. Mahā-Viṣṇu is expansion of the expansion. The direct expansion is Baladeva. The next expansion is Saṅkarṣaṇa. The next expansion is the catur-vyūha. In this way, Viṣṇu, Mahā-Viṣṇu, is expansion of the expansion, kalā. Yasyaika-niśvasita-kālam athāvalambya jīvanti loma-vilajā jagad-aṇḍa-nāthāḥ (Bs. 5.48). Yasya kalā-viśeṣaḥ. Kalā means expansion of the expansion. That Mahā-Viṣṇu is kalā of Kṛṣṇa. Govindam Adi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi . . .

So not necessarily all appearances of Kṛṣṇa is direct or He, Himself. There are expansions and expansion of the expansion. That is clearly explained. Ete ca aṁśa-kalāḥ. Some of them are direct, some of them are indirect. But this word "Kṛṣṇa" is, kṛṣṇas tu, He is but the Supreme Person. Bhagavān svayam, the Supreme Personality of Godhead.