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<div class="quote" book="Con" link="Morning Walk -- May 20, 1975, Melbourne" link_text="Morning Walk -- May 20, 1975, Melbourne">
<div class="heading">So we have got recognized ācārya, just like you said, Rāmānujācārya, Madhvācārya, Nimbārka, Viṣṇu Svāmī, Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Or Śaṅkarācārya even. You follow one ācārya, like Christians, they follow Christ, ācārya</div>




== Conversations and Morning Walks ==
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<div class="text">'''[[Vanisource:750520 - Conversation - Melbourne|750520 - Conversation on May 20, 1975, Melbourne]]:'''
Prabhupāda: Anyone. Muhammad says something, you have to say: "Muhammad says this." You cannot say: "What Muhammad says, it is not right. What I say, it is right." You cannot say that. That is dishonest. You say in your own words. Why should you bring Muhammad or Kṛṣṇa or Christ to say your word? Did they come to support your views?


=== 1975 Conversations and Morning Walks ===
Dr. Copeland: No, I don't do that.


'''So we have got recognized ācārya, just like you said, Rāmānujācārya, Madhvācārya, Nimbārka, Viṣṇu Svāmī, Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Or Śaṅkarācārya even. You follow one ācārya, like Christians, they follow Christ, ācārya'''
Prabhupāda: No, you do not do that. You do not do that. You will see Dr. Radhakrishnan says. When this, he is making comment on it, he said: "It is not to Kṛṣṇa." Kṛṣṇa says, ''man-manā bhava mad-bhakto māṁ namaskuru'', and Dr. Radha . . . "It is not to Kṛṣṇa." How he is misleading people! He is a great scholar, and he says: "It is not to Kṛṣṇa, to the person." Just see. This dishonesty is going on. What right he has got to say like that? Did He . . . did He, Kṛṣṇa, left His ''Bhagavad-gītā'' to be interpreted by a rascal, "Not to Kṛṣṇa"? This is rascaldom. You cannot say. You must say what Kṛṣṇa says, if you take ''Bhagavad-gītā''. But if you have got a different views, then you write your own book. Present, as many others philosophers are doing. I don't agree you; you don't agree with me. That's all right. ''Nāsau munir yasya mataṁ na bhinnam'' ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 17.186|CC Madhya 17.186]]). You cannot become a big philosopher unless you have got a different views. That is the way. If I don't defy you, then I am not a big philosopher. That is the way. It is going on.


<span class="CON-statistics">'''[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- May 20, 1975, Melbourne|Morning Walk -- May 20, 1975, Melbourne]]:'''  
So ''nāsau munir yasya'' . . . so if I take the opinion of one ''muni'' and another ''muni'', another ''muni'', then where is the real view? Therefore it is said, ''mahājano yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ'' ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 17.186|CC Madhya 17.186]]). Big personalities, what they have done, we have to follow that. So our principle is that, that we are following Caitanya Mahāprabhu, ''mahājana'', a great personality. Or the Christians are following Christ, a great personality. ''Mahājano yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ''. You follow some ''mahājana'', great personality. Don't take opinion this man, that man, this man, this man. Then you will be bewildered. ''Dharmasya tattvaṁ nihitaṁ guhāyāṁ mahājano yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ''. So you have to follow one great personality, ''ācārya''. That is also recommended in the ''Bhā . . . ācāryopāsanam'' ([[BG 13.8-12 (1972)|BG 13.8]]), following the ''ācārya''. So we have got recognized ''ācārya'', just like you said, Rāmānujācārya, Madhvācārya, Nimbārka, Viṣṇu Svāmī, Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Or Śaṅkarācārya even. You follow one ''ācārya'', like Christians, they follow Christ, ''ācārya''. The Muhammadans, they follow ''ācārya'', Muhammad. That is good. You must follow some ''ācārya''. But don't give your opinion. That is our process. ''Evaṁ paramparā-prāptam''.
That is the way. It is going on. So nasau munir yasya... So if I take the opinion of one muni and another muni, another muni, then where is the real view? Therefore it is said mahajano yena gatah sa panthah [Cc. Madhya 17.186]. Big personalities, what they have done, we have to follow that. So our principle is that, that we are following Caitanya Mahaprabhu, mahajana, a great personality. Or the Christians are following Christ, a great personality. Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah. You follow some mahajana, great personality. Don't take opinion, this man, that man, this man, this man. Then you will be bewildered. Dharmasya tattvam nihitam guhayam mahajano yena gatah sa panthah. So you have to follow one great personality, acarya. That is also recommended in the Bha... acaryopasanam, following the acarya. So we have got recognized acarya, just like you said, Ramanujacarya, Madhvacarya, Nimbarka, Visnu Svami, Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Or Sankaracarya even. You follow one acarya, like Christians, they follow Christ, acarya.
The Mohammedans, they follow acarya, Mohammed. That is good. You must follow some acarya. But don't give your opinion. That is our process. Evam parampara-praptam. Just see, find out.

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Conversations and Morning Walks

1975 Conversations and Morning Walks

So we have got recognized ācārya, just like you said, Rāmānujācārya, Madhvācārya, Nimbārka, Viṣṇu Svāmī, Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Or Śaṅkarācārya even. You follow one ācārya, like Christians, they follow Christ, ācārya


750520 - Conversation on May 20, 1975, Melbourne:

Prabhupāda: Anyone. Muhammad says something, you have to say: "Muhammad says this." You cannot say: "What Muhammad says, it is not right. What I say, it is right." You cannot say that. That is dishonest. You say in your own words. Why should you bring Muhammad or Kṛṣṇa or Christ to say your word? Did they come to support your views?

Dr. Copeland: No, I don't do that.

Prabhupāda: No, you do not do that. You do not do that. You will see Dr. Radhakrishnan says. When this, he is making comment on it, he said: "It is not to Kṛṣṇa." Kṛṣṇa says, man-manā bhava mad-bhakto māṁ namaskuru, and Dr. Radha . . . "It is not to Kṛṣṇa." How he is misleading people! He is a great scholar, and he says: "It is not to Kṛṣṇa, to the person." Just see. This dishonesty is going on. What right he has got to say like that? Did He . . . did He, Kṛṣṇa, left His Bhagavad-gītā to be interpreted by a rascal, "Not to Kṛṣṇa"? This is rascaldom. You cannot say. You must say what Kṛṣṇa says, if you take Bhagavad-gītā. But if you have got a different views, then you write your own book. Present, as many others philosophers are doing. I don't agree you; you don't agree with me. That's all right. Nāsau munir yasya mataṁ na bhinnam (CC Madhya 17.186). You cannot become a big philosopher unless you have got a different views. That is the way. If I don't defy you, then I am not a big philosopher. That is the way. It is going on.

So nāsau munir yasya . . . so if I take the opinion of one muni and another muni, another muni, then where is the real view? Therefore it is said, mahājano yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ (CC Madhya 17.186). Big personalities, what they have done, we have to follow that. So our principle is that, that we are following Caitanya Mahāprabhu, mahājana, a great personality. Or the Christians are following Christ, a great personality. Mahājano yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ. You follow some mahājana, great personality. Don't take opinion this man, that man, this man, this man. Then you will be bewildered. Dharmasya tattvaṁ nihitaṁ guhāyāṁ mahājano yena gataḥ sa panthāḥ. So you have to follow one great personality, ācārya. That is also recommended in the Bhā . . . ācāryopāsanam (BG 13.8), following the ācārya. So we have got recognized ācārya, just like you said, Rāmānujācārya, Madhvācārya, Nimbārka, Viṣṇu Svāmī, Caitanya Mahāprabhu. Or Śaṅkarācārya even. You follow one ācārya, like Christians, they follow Christ, ācārya. The Muhammadans, they follow ācārya, Muhammad. That is good. You must follow some ācārya. But don't give your opinion. That is our process. Evaṁ paramparā-prāptam.