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| <div class="heading">Caitanya Mahāprabhu is Kṛṣṇa. Still, He is playing the part of a sādhu. Sādhu and śāstra, Brahma-saṁhitā, and because we have received from Caitanya Mahāprabhu, we are delivering to our disciples: "Here is Kṛṣṇa's form." The sādhu, śāstra, guru. It must be confirmed. Then we can accept, not that whimsically if some rascal comes and becomes God by concoction. We cannot accept. It must be confirmed by the śāstra, and it must be confirmed by the ācāryas and by the spiritual master. | | <div class="heading">Caitanya Mahāprabhu is Kṛṣṇa. Still, He is playing the part of a sādhu. Sādhu and śāstra, Brahma-saṁhitā, and because we have received from Caitanya Mahāprabhu, we are delivering to our disciples: "Here is Kṛṣṇa's form." The sādhu, śāstra, guru. It must be confirmed. Then we can accept, not that whimsically if some rascal comes and becomes God by concoction. We cannot accept. It must be confirmed by the śāstra, and it must be confirmed by the ācāryas and by the spiritual master. |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.28.20 -- Nairobi, October 30, 1975|Lecture on SB 3.28.20 -- Nairobi, October 30, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">So as we have explained many times, that this arca-mūrti... The rascal class of men, they cannot understand arca-mūrti. They think that "They are worshiping idol." Even amongst the Hindus there are so-called followers of Vedas. They also say that "What is the necessity of worshiping Deity in the temple?" They made very vigorous propaganda in India to stop temple worship. For a short time it has got some reaction, but now it is finished. That rascal propaganda not to worship the Deity in the temple is finished. Nobody cares for that. They think that God is everywhere—except in the temple. (laughter) That is their view. And God is everywhere; why not in the temple? No. That is their poor fund of knowledge. They cannot accommodate. No. God is everywhere but not in the temple. This is their intelligence, rascals. So we have to follow therefore ācārya. Ācāryavān puruṣo veda: one who has accepted ācārya... One who knows the śāstra and practically behaves according to the regulation of śāstra, he is called ācārya. Acinoti śāstrārthaḥ.</p> | | |
| <p>So all the ācāryas... In India there are many thousands and thousands of temples, very, very big temples, especially in South India. Some of them you have seen. Each temple is like a big fort. So all these temples were established by the ācāryas, not that the people whimsically established. No. Still there is very prominent temple, Balaji temple, Tirupati, Tirumalai. People are going, and the daily collection is more than one lakh of rupees still. Although they have been propagated so vigorously not to visit temples, but people... That is the birthright in India—they are automatically Kṛṣṇa conscious, automatically. Therefore all the demigods, they also desire to take birth in India. Automatically.</p>
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| <p>So the temple worship is essential. So those who are against temple worship, Deity worship, they are not very intelligent class of men, foolish, mūḍha. Again, the same word.</p>
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| :na māṁ duṣkṛtino mūḍhāḥ
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 3.28.20 -- Nairobi, October 30, 1975|Lecture on SB 3.28.20 -- Nairobi, October 30, 1975]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;"> |
| :prapadyante narādhamāḥ
| | We have to accept the form of the Lord as confirmed in the ''śāstra'' and as confirmed by the ''ācārya''. Then it is perfect. ''Sādhu śāstra guru vākya tinete kariyā aikya''. We have to understand something very rigidly by three things, the . . . it must be confirmed by the ''śāstra'', and it must be confirmed by the ''ācāryas ''and by the spiritual master. Very simple thing. We have description of Kṛṣṇa in the ''śāstra'', ''Brahma-saṁhitā'', the treatise given by Lord Brahma. And this ''Brahma-saṁhitā ''was collected from South India in handwriting by Caitanya Mahāprabhu, and He delivered to His devotees. So the ''sādhu ''. . . Caitanya Mahāprabhu is Kṛṣṇa. Still, He is playing the part of a ''sādhu''. ''Sādhu ''and ''śāstra'', ''Brahma-saṁhitā''. And because we have received from Caitanya Mahāprabhu, we are delivering to our disciples: "Here is Kṛṣṇa's form." The ''sādhu'', ''śāstra'', ''guru'', it must be confirmed. Then we can accept. Not that whimsically if some rascal comes and becomes God by concoction. We cannot accept. It must be confirmed by . . . (aside) Why do you bother? Let them. No, no. As he likes. That's all. |
| :māyayāpahṛta-jñānā
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| :āsuri bhāvam āśritāḥ
| | So ''sādhu'', ''śāstra'', ''guru''. This is the way. When Caitanya Mahāprabhu was instructing Sanātana Gosvāmī in various subject matter, and he also described the incarnation in Kali-yuga from ''śāstra ''that: |
| :([[Vanisource:BG 7.15|BG 7.15]])
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| <p> Māyayāpahṛta jñānāḥ. They are talking very big, big words, that "God is everywhere," but they are forbidding temple worship. Apahṛta-jñānā. The knowledge is imperfect. A common man can say, "If God is everywhere, why not in the temple?" And if we have to worship God, why not in His original form? The original form, Kṛṣṇa, when He was present, the original form so many people have seen. They have got photograph..., not photograph, paintings. And it is confirmed in the śāstras, in the Brahma-saṁhitā, veṇuṁ kvaṇantam aravinda-dalāyatākṣaṁ barhāvataṁsam asitāmbuda-sundarāṅgam (Bs. 5.30). Kṛṣṇa is described in the Brahma-saṁhitā from so millions and millions of years ago described by Lord Brahma, that veṇuṁ kvaṇantam aravinda-dalāyatākṣaṁ. He is always playing His flute, veṇuṁ. Venu means flute. Kvaṇantam. And eyes are like the petals of lotus flower. Venum kvaṇantam aravinda-dalāyatākṣaṁ barhāvataṁsam (Bs. 5.30). And on the head He has got the plume of peacock feather. In this way the description is there in the śāstra. And when Kṛṣṇa came... (aside:) Let him... Why do you disturb? Let him do that. Sit down. So śāstra says Kṛṣṇa is like this. And when Kṛṣṇa appeared on this planet the exactly the same description was there in His form.</p>
| | :''kṛṣṇa-varṇam tviṣākṛṣṇaṁ'' |
| <p>So we have to accept the form of the Lord as confirmed in the śāstra and as confirmed by the ācārya. Then it is perfect. Sādhu śāstra guru vākya tinete kariyā aikya. We have to understand something very rigidly by three things, the... It must be confirmed by the śāstra, and it must be confirmed by the ācāryas and by the spiritual master. Very simple thing. We have description of Kṛṣṇa in the śāstra, Brahma-saṁhitā, the treatise given by Lord Brahma. And this Brahma-saṁhitā was collected from South India in handwriting by Caitanya Mahāprabhu and He delivered to His devotees. So the sādhu... Caitanya Mahāprabhu is Kṛṣṇa. Still, He is playing the part of a sādhu. Sādhu and śāstra, Brahma-saṁhitā, and because we have received from Caitanya Mahāprabhu, we are delivering to our disciples: "Here is Kṛṣṇa's form." The sādhu, śāstra, guru. It must be confirmed. Then we can accept, not that whimsically if some rascal comes and becomes God by concoction. We cannot accept. It must be confirmed by... (aside:) Why do you bother? Let them. No, no. As he likes. That's all.</p>
| | :''sāṅgopāṅgāstra-pārṣadam'' |
| <p>So sādhu śāstra guru. This is the way. When Caitanya Mahāprabhu was instructing Sanātana Gosvāmī in various subject matter, and He also described the incarnation in Kali-yuga from śāstra that,</p>
| | :''yajñaiḥ saṅkīrtanaiḥ-prāyair'' |
| :kṛṣṇa-varṇam tviṣākṛṣṇaṁ | | :''yajanti hi su-medhasaḥ'' |
| :sāṅgopāṅgāstra-pārṣadam | |
| :yajñaiḥ saṅkīrtanaiḥ-prāyair | |
| :yajanti hi su-medhasaḥ | |
| :([[Vanisource:SB 11.5.32|SB 11.5.32]]) | | :([[Vanisource:SB 11.5.32|SB 11.5.32]]) |
| <p>He quoted from Bhāgavatam, "This is the incarnation of Kali-yuga." So He is Himself yajñaiḥ saṅkīrtanaiḥ-prāyaiḥ. So Sanātana Gosvāmī was prime minister, very intelligent man. So he had inquired from Caitanya Mahāprabhu that "How we can accept the avatāra?" So Caitanya Mahāprabhu also said, "From the śāstra." And Sanātana Gosvāmī got it confirmed that Caitanya Mahāprabhu was... He stopped, of course. When he inquired that "Shall I accept this personality who is now preaching saṅkīrtana movement and along with His associates, He is the Supreme Lord?" Then Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, "Let us go on further. We don't..."</p>
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| <p>So this is the way, not whimsically accept any rascal as avatāra. No. That is not the process. Or any rascal as God. This rascaldom has killed the whole human society to become atheist. You should be very, very careful of these rascals. As soon as somebody says that "I am God," you shall immediately take him as dog, not God. So God is not so cheap. In the Brahma-saṁhitā the description of God, Kṛṣṇa, is given, and it is said there,</p>
| | He quoted from ''Bhāgavatam'', "This is the incarnation of Kali-yuga." So He is Himself ''yajñaiḥ saṅkīrtanaiḥ-prāyaiḥ''. So Sanātana Gosvāmī was prime minister, very intelligent man. So he had inquired from Caitanya Mahāprabhu that "How we can accept the ''avatāra''?" So Caitanya Mahāprabhu also said: "From the ''śāstra''." And Sanātana Gosvāmī got it confirmed that Caitanya Mahāprabhu was . . . he stopped, of course. When he inquired that, "Shall I accept this personality who is now preaching ''saṅkīrtana ''movement and along with His associates, He is the Supreme Lord?" Then Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, "Let us go on further. We don't . . ." |
| :yasyaika-niśvasita-kālam athāvalambya
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| :jīvanti loma-bilajā jagad-aṇḍa-nāthāḥ
| | So this is the way, not whimsically accept any rascal as ''avatāra''. No. That is not the process. Or any rascal as God. This rascaldom has killed the whole human society to become atheist. You should be very, very careful of these rascals. As soon as somebody says that "I am God," you shall immediately take him as dog, not God. So God is not so cheap. |
| :viṣṇur mahān sa iha yasya kalā-viśeṣo
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| :govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
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| :(Bs. 5.48)
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| <p>Govinda, the ādi-puruṣa, His plenary representation is Mahā-Viṣṇu. And what is the description of Mahā-Viṣṇu? Yasya eka niśvasita-kālam athāvalambya. From one exhaling of the breath, then... Yasyaika niśvasita-kālam athāvalambya (Bs. 5.48), all these innumerable universes. We are seeing... We are in one universe. There are many millions of universes. That we cannot see. We are within this universe compact. We can see it is packed up, just like a ball. But there are many such. So all these different universes controlled by one Lord Brahma, they are coming during the exhaling period of Mahā-Viṣṇu's breathing. That is God. Who can imagine Him?</p>
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