Prabhupāda: Yes. If there is no rainfall, either animal or men, they will die for want of food.
Dr. Kneupper: What do you think would be the remedy or solution to the problem?
Prabhupāda: Remedy is they should admit that there is God. But they do not admit, especially the so-called scientist rascals and atheist philosophers, politicians. They do not accept the authority of God. They think they will be able to manage things in their own way. And they say clearly, "There is no God." But there is nature. You can say, "I don't care for the government but the government force is there; police is there; military is there. Similarly, you may say, "Defy the control of government," but the agent of God is there, the material nature. That will punish you. There will be no rain, there will be no food production, and the rascal governments will take advantage of it, "food relief." They'll tax, as if by taxing they will be able to combat with nature. So three things we'll have to meet: no rain, no food, and government taxes. Then how people will remain in sane condition? They will become mad.
Dr. Kneupper: But your teaching, doesn't it offer a way of meeting these problems?
Prabhupāda: Yes. We are teaching people God consciousness. Then everything will be solved.