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[[Category:Questions On... Vaisnava Acaryas]] | |||
[[Category:Questions On... Jesus]] | |||
[[Category:Questions On... Avataras, Incarnations, Messengers of God]] | |||
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<div id="Lectures" class="section" sec_index="4" parent="compilation" text="Lectures"><h2>Lectures</h2> | |||
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<div id="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" class="sub_section" sec_index="1" parent="Lectures" text="Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures"><h3>Srimad-Bhagavatam Lectures</h3> | |||
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<div id="LectureonSB612734SuratDecember171970_0" class="quote" parent="Srimad-Bhagavatam_Lectures" book="Lec" index="646" link="Lecture on SB 6.1.27-34 -- Surat, December 17, 1970" link_text="Lecture on SB 6.1.27-34 -- Surat, December 17, 1970"> | |||
<div class="heading">Yes. Because he said it, it must be correct. | |||
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on SB 6.1.27-34 -- Surat, December 17, 1970|Lecture on SB 6.1.27-34 -- Surat, December 17, 1970]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Revatīnandana: I have a question. One of my prabhus told me that you once said that your Guru Mahārāja said that Jesus Christ was a śaktyāveśāvatāra. Is that correct?</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Because he said it, it must be correct. Muhammad also, śaktyāveśāvatāra. Śaktyāveśāvatāra means a living entity is especially empowered to preach the glories of the Lord. Lord Buddha is also śaktyāveśāvatāra. They are not ordinary human being. They are especially empowered personalities.</p> | |||
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<div id="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="10" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1977 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1977 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3> | |||
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<div id="RoomConversationwithRamJethmalaniParliamentMemberApril161977Bombay_0" class="quote" parent="1977_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="139" link="Room Conversation with Ram Jethmalani (Parliament Member) -- April 16, 1977, Bombay" link_text="Room Conversation with Ram Jethmalani (Parliament Member) -- April 16, 1977, Bombay"> | |||
<div class="heading">Guru Mahārāja said that Christ is śaktyāveśa-avatāra, as Buddha. How he can be otherwise? He sacrificed everything for God. He cannot be ordinary man. | |||
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Ram Jethmalani (Parliament Member) -- April 16, 1977, Bombay|Room Conversation with Ram Jethmalani (Parliament Member) -- April 16, 1977, Bombay]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Frankly, though, we can see by Christianity that some defect is there. Either it's probably not there on the part of Jesus. He could have given them a way to purify themself, but they...</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: One chance, that "You have accepted me, I take your all sinful reactions." But these rascals continue.</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: His point was that "Now you must continue to follow my instructions."</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes. Otherwise why ten commandments? And these rascals took it that "I shall not follow any of you. You take our sinful reaction. It is very good religion."</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And therefore they say no one is more merciful than Jesus.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Even if... We are doing anything, but he still forgives us.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: This is going on. Therefore according to history, he retired. That is resurrection. He went to Kashmir. "It is hopeless."</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He didn't die on the cross.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: It is not possible to kill him. Such a great personality, representative of God, he is not killed. That is not possible.</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Simply by putting some wounds.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: He made a show that "I am killed." That is resurrection. And when you finished your business, then he will go (indistinct).</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, they say that when he got down they rubbed his body with oils.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: He was a great yogi and so on.</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You remember in that book you were reading, The Aquarian Gospel. It mentioned how he learned yoga when he came to India.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: We admit. Guru Mahārāja said śaktyāveśa-avatāra, powerful incarnation. Therefore whenever there was question of Jesus, I never disrespected Jesus. Never criticized him, because I know that he is powerful representative of God. We took it from Guru Mahārāja.</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Your Guru Mahārāja would sometimes...</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: He said that Christ is śaktyāveśa-avatāra, as Buddha. How he can be otherwise? He sacrificed everything for God. He cannot be ordinary man.</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You want (indistinct)?</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: Hm. That Melbourne meeting, it was... You were present?</p> | |||
<p>Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, I heard about it. With the monks, I think.</p> | |||
<p>Prabhupāda: They very much appreciated. Because they saw that I have got full respect for Christ and his real disciples. And actually we have. Why not? He said, "Thou shalt not kill," and they are interpreting killing. This is going on. And they are Christians. Just see how much cheating. It is clearly written, "Thou shalt not kill." And their only business is killing, and still, they are Christians. How much cheating it is. Whatever little success is in our movement, the cause is I have not tried to cheat. Honestly, what I knew, I heard it from Guru Mahārāja and scripture, I took it. There was no cheating.</p> | |||
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Revatīnandana: I have a question. One of my prabhus told me that you once said that your Guru Mahārāja said that Jesus Christ was a śaktyāveśāvatāra. Is that correct?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Because he said it, it must be correct. Muhammad also, śaktyāveśāvatāra. Śaktyāveśāvatāra means a living entity is especially empowered to preach the glories of the Lord. Lord Buddha is also śaktyāveśāvatāra. They are not ordinary human being. They are especially empowered personalities.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Frankly, though, we can see by Christianity that some defect is there. Either it's probably not there on the part of Jesus. He could have given them a way to purify themself, but they...
Prabhupāda: One chance, that "You have accepted me, I take your all sinful reactions." But these rascals continue.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: His point was that "Now you must continue to follow my instructions."
Prabhupāda: Yes. Otherwise why ten commandments? And these rascals took it that "I shall not follow any of you. You take our sinful reaction. It is very good religion."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And therefore they say no one is more merciful than Jesus.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Even if... We are doing anything, but he still forgives us.
Prabhupāda: This is going on. Therefore according to history, he retired. That is resurrection. He went to Kashmir. "It is hopeless."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He didn't die on the cross.
Prabhupāda: It is not possible to kill him. Such a great personality, representative of God, he is not killed. That is not possible.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Simply by putting some wounds.
Prabhupāda: He made a show that "I am killed." That is resurrection. And when you finished your business, then he will go (indistinct).
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yeah, they say that when he got down they rubbed his body with oils.
Prabhupāda: He was a great yogi and so on.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You remember in that book you were reading, The Aquarian Gospel. It mentioned how he learned yoga when he came to India.
Prabhupāda: We admit. Guru Mahārāja said śaktyāveśa-avatāra, powerful incarnation. Therefore whenever there was question of Jesus, I never disrespected Jesus. Never criticized him, because I know that he is powerful representative of God. We took it from Guru Mahārāja.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Your Guru Mahārāja would sometimes...
Prabhupāda: He said that Christ is śaktyāveśa-avatāra, as Buddha. How he can be otherwise? He sacrificed everything for God. He cannot be ordinary man.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: You want (indistinct)?
Prabhupāda: Hm. That Melbourne meeting, it was... You were present?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No, I heard about it. With the monks, I think.
Prabhupāda: They very much appreciated. Because they saw that I have got full respect for Christ and his real disciples. And actually we have. Why not? He said, "Thou shalt not kill," and they are interpreting killing. This is going on. And they are Christians. Just see how much cheating. It is clearly written, "Thou shalt not kill." And their only business is killing, and still, they are Christians. How much cheating it is. Whatever little success is in our movement, the cause is I have not tried to cheat. Honestly, what I knew, I heard it from Guru Mahārāja and scripture, I took it. There was no cheating.