Madhudviṣa: These are, these are preparation which is prepared from Australian milk.
Prabhupāda: Let him take. Yes.
Guest (2): Oh, thank you.
Madhudviṣa: Give a napkin. It's a little sweet . . . it's a sweet preparation called gulābjāmun. It is all prepared just from milk which has been boil made into curd, and then the curd has been fried in ghee, cooking ghee, and then after it has been fried, it has been soaked in sweet water and is very palatable. It's called a gulābjāmun. It is a, a very famous delicacy of Indian cooking. It requires a great skill and art to prepare these. And as our spiritual master said, there is actually hundreds and hundreds of food which can be prepared from this, like the cheese you have there. Even cooking cheese and spicing it with asafetida and ginger, meat taste can be simulated very, very nicely.
Prabhupāda: This cheese as you, as it is you take, it is as beneficial as meat.
Madhudviṣa: Protein.
Guest (2): Yes, yes. Similar protein.
Prabhupāda: So why the animal should be killed? Take milk.
Guest (2): What is sweet water? You mean just sugar . . .
Madhudviṣa: Syrup.
Guest (2): Now is this made here or in India?
Madhudviṣa: Yes, we make it ourselves.
Guest (2): You made it here.
Madhudviṣa: Our spiritual master taught us how to make it. (laughter) An ancient science.
Guest (2): Thank you very much.
Prabhupāda: No, no, I am teaching them, "Eat nicely, live nicely, and be prepared for your next life, for going back to home, back to Godhead." You can take. Why you are not . . . it is very nice.
Guest (2): You mean to eat it now?
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guest (2): I would sooner take it home and eat it with my wife.
Prabhupāda: No, no, you take, you take it. You just . . .
Guest (2): Oh that's a shame.
Madhudviṣa: I can give you another.
Prabhupāda: Yes. If you like, we shall give you more.
Satsvarūpa: It's very sweet. Watch it, it's very drippy though.
Guest (2): Yes, it looks like it.
Prabhupāda: And if you send us cheese like this, we can send you many things. (laughter)
Dr. Muncey: It's very nice, but I must save some for my family.
Dr. Harrap: I'd probably be irreligious if I said that it was soaked in rum, but . . . (laughter)
Dr. Muncey: It's very good.
Prabhupāda: Shall I give you more?
Dr. Harrap: No, that's very nice, thank you. It'll ruin my dinner. Can I take the rest home?
Madhudviṣa: Oh, yes.
Dr. Muncey: Well, this has been most interesting.
Dr. Harrap: Oh, yes. Well public relations meant for dairy research yes.
Madhudviṣa: One thing that we would like to mention, as our spiritual master says, there is a definite, according to the Vedic scripture, there is a definite link between consumption of milk and development of fine brain tissues. And if your department of knowledge has some research in that area, we think it would be a great service to mankind if they can be informed how they can develop fine brain tissues, fine brain tissues which are needed for coping with the problems of this day and age. Not that simply, oh well if I disagree with you we'll just fight. It has to be fine brain tissues in order to say: "Let us sit down and talk about this together." And we, and we say that not we, but according to the scripture—there is a definite link between the consumption of milk products—not just milk, but cheese and all different milk products—the consumption of milk products and the development of the necessary intellect. This is why, as our spiritual master said, the highly intelligent people of India have lived predominantly not just drinking milk, but everything they ate was cooked in milk products. You know, the vegetables, rice, everything . . . even if rice was boiled, milk was put on . . . ghee was put on the rice. So that is like an unavoidable essential in their diet, not simply from the palatable standpoint, but actually from the relationship between the physical and the metaphysical, you know, progress.
Prabhupāda: And thousands of tons of ghee, clarified butter, was offered in the yajña. The smoke created a kind of cloud which is very good for cultivation.