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| {{terms|"What's the difference between a sadhu and a guru? Sadhu means authorities like Vyasa"}} | | {{terms|"What's the difference between a ''sādhu'' and a ''guru''? ''Sadhu'' means authorities like ''Vyāsa''"}} |
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| [[Category:Questions asked to Srila Prabhupada]] | | [[Category:Questions asked to Srila Prabhupada]] |
| [[Category:Questions asked to SP... 1973]] | | [[Category:Questions asked to SP... 1973]] |
| | [[Category:Questions On... Spiritual Master - Guru]] |
| | [[Category:Questions On... Authority and Authenticity]] |
| | [[Category:Questions On... Personalities From Vedic Scripture]] |
| | [[Category:Prabhupada Speaks - Room Conversations, 1966 - 1977]] |
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| | [[Category:Prabhupada Speaks - in Europe, England - London]] |
| | [[category:Prabhupada Speaks - Answering Questions, 1973]] |
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| <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> | | <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> |
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| <div id="RoomConversationwithMalcolmJuly181973London_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="46" link="Room Conversation with Malcolm -- July 18, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Malcolm -- July 18, 1973, London"> | | <div id="RoomConversationwithMalcolmJuly181973London_0" class="quote" parent="1973_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" book="Con" index="46" link="Room Conversation with Malcolm -- July 18, 1973, London" link_text="Room Conversation with Malcolm -- July 18, 1973, London"> |
| <div class="heading">Guru... He must be a sādhu... A sādhu means titikṣavaḥ kāruṇikāḥ suhṛdaḥ sarva-dehinām, ajāta-śatravaḥ śāntāḥ sādhavaḥ sādhu-bhūṣaṇāḥ (SB 3.25.21). Everything, there is definition, who is sādhu, who is guru. | | <div class="heading">Guru... He must be a sādhu... A sādhu means titikṣavaḥ kāruṇikāḥ suhṛdaḥ sarva-dehinām, ajāta-śatravaḥ śāntāḥ sādhavaḥ sādhu-bhūṣaṇāḥ. Everything, there is definition, who is sādhu, who is guru. |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Malcolm -- July 18, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Malcolm -- July 18, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Haṁsadūta: What's the difference between a sādhu and a guru? Sadhu means authorities like Vyāsa?</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: Guru... He must be a sādhu.</p>
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| <p>Haṁsadūta: It means the previous ācāryas.</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: A sādhu means titikṣavaḥ kāruṇikāḥ suhṛdaḥ sarva-dehinām, ajāta-śatravaḥ śāntāḥ sādhavaḥ sādhu-bhūṣaṇāḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 3.25.21|SB 3.25.21]]). Everything, there is definition, who is sādhu, who is guru.</p>
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| <p>Haṁsadūta: Yes.</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: ...what is śāstra. Everything is there. You have to know it. What is avatāra. That is my business, how to know. But there is, everything's there. What... Everyone can know it. Sādhavaḥ, sādhu. Sum and substance of sādhu means devotee. Just like in the Bhagavad-gītā, Kṛṣṇa says, api cet sudurācāro bhajate mām ananya-bhāk, sādhur eva sa mantavyaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 9.30|BG 9.30]]). "He's sādhu." Who? Ananya-bhāk: "Without any diversion of attention, he's completely engaged in My devotional service... Even if he has got some minor defects, still, because he is completely surrendered and engaged in My service, he's sādhu." Sādhur eva sa mantavyaḥ ([[Vanisource:BG 9.30|BG 9.30]]). So this is the test of sādhu. Sādhu means he must be a devotee. Sādhu does not mean having saffron color and long beard and doing all nonsense. No. Sādhu means... First test is that he is unflinching, without any deviation. Api cet sudurā..., bhajate mām ananya-bhāk. Ananya-bhāk means he does not know anything except the service of the Lord. That is the qualification of sādhu. So similarly, in other places also, the definition of sādhu is there. Sādhu means titikṣavaḥ: he's very tolerant because a sādhu has to face so many opposing elements and sometimes very offensive, but he has to tolerate. Titikṣavaḥ. At the same time, kāruṇikāḥ, very merciful. The same man who is torturing him, torturing him, he is trying to convince him about Kṛṣṇa. That means very merciful. He's not rejecting. Although he's torturing him, but he's trying to convince him, Kṛṣṇa. Therefore kāruṇikāḥ. And he is not friend of any particular society or man. Suhṛdaḥ sarva-dehinām. He is well-wisher of all living entities. It doesn't matter whether he's Indian, American, or black and white. No, no conception. Or even human being or animal. He is kind to everyone, friend, well-wisher of everyone. Ajāta-śatravaḥ. He does not create any enemies. Such... These are the qualifications of sādhu. Śāstra means the transcendental literature, not ordinary writings. That is śāstra. Just like Bhagavad-gītā is śāstra, Veda is śāstra, or Bible, śāstra. Scripture means given by God or His authorized representative. That is śāstra. So sādhu-śāstra-guru. And guru means who is completely devotee of Kṛṣṇa without any material motives. This is sādhu-śāstra-guru. Anyābhilāṣitāśūnyaṁ jñāna-karmādy-anāvṛtam, ānukūlyena kṛṣṇānuśīlanam ([[Vanisource:CC Madhya 19.167|CC Madhya 19.167]]). (baby crying in background)</p>
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| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Room Conversation with Malcolm -- July 18, 1973, London|Room Conversation with Malcolm -- July 18, 1973, London]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;"> |
| | Haṁsadūta: What's the difference between a ''sādhu'' and a ''guru''? ''Sadhu'' means authorities like Vyāsa? |
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| | Prabhupāda: ''Guru'' . . . he must be a ''sādhu''. |
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| | Haṁsadūta: It means the previous ''ācāryas''. |
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| | Prabhupāda: A ''sādhu'' means: |
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| | :''titikṣavaḥ kāruṇikāḥ'' |
| | :''suhṛdaḥ sarva-bhutānām'' |
| | :''ajāta-śatravaḥ śāntāḥ'' |
| | :''sādhavaḥ sādhu-bhūṣaṇāḥ'' |
| | :([[vanisource:SB 3.25.21|SB 3.25.21]]) |
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| | Everything, there is definition, who is ''sādhu'', who is ''guru'' . . . |
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| | Haṁsadūta: Yes. |
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| | Prabhupāda: . . . what is ''śāstra''. Everything is there. You have to know it. What is ''avatāra''. That is my business, how to know. But there is. Everything's there. What . . . everyone can know it. ''Sādhavaḥ. Sādhu.'' Sum and substance of ''sādhu'' means devotee. Just like in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'', Kṛṣṇa says, ''api cet sudurācāro bhajate mām ananya-bhāk, sādhur eva sa mantavyaḥ'' ([[vanisource:BG 9.30 (1972)|BG 9.30]]). "He's ''sādhu''." |
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| | Who? ''Ananya-bhāk'': "Without any diversion of attention, he's completely engaged in My devotional service. Even if he has got some minor defects, still, because he is completely surrendered and engaged in My service, he's ''sādhu''." ''Sādhur eva sa mantavyaḥ.'' So this is the test of ''sādhu. Sādhu'' means he must be a devotee. ''Sādhu'' does not mean having saffron color and long beard and doing all nonsense. No. ''Sādhu'' means . . . first test is that he is unflinching, without any deviation. ''Api cet sudurā . . . bhajate mām ananya-bhāk. Ananya-bhāk'' means he does not know anything except the service of the Lord. That is the qualification of ''sādhu''. |
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| | So similarly, in other places also, the definition of ''sādhu'' is there. ''Sādhu'' means ''titikṣavaḥ'': he's very tolerant because a ''sādhu'' has to face so many opposing elements, and sometimes very offensive, but he has to tolerate. ''Titikṣavaḥ''. At the same time, ''kāruṇikāḥ'', very merciful. The same man who is torturing him, torturing him, he is trying to convince him about Kṛṣṇa. That means very merciful. He's not rejecting. Although he's torturing him, but he's trying to convince him, Kṛṣṇa. |
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| | Therefore ''kāruṇikāḥ''. And he is not friend of any particular society or man. ''Suhṛdaḥ sarva-dehinām'': he is well-wisher of all living entities. It doesn't matter whether he's Indian, American or black and white. No, no conception. Or even human being or animal. He is kind to everyone; friend, well-wisher of everyone. ''Ajāta-śatravaḥ''. He does not create any enemy. Such . . . these are the qualification of ''sādhu''. |
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| | ''Śāstra'' means the transcendental literature, not ordinary writings. That is ''śāstra''. Just like ''Bhagavad-gītā'' is ''śāstra'', ''Veda'' is ''śāstra'', or Bible, ''śāstra''. Scripture means given by God or His authorized representative. That is ''śāstra''. So ''sādhu-śāstra-guru.'' And ''guru'' means who is completely devotee of Kṛṣṇa, without any material motive. This is ''sādhu-śāstra-guru. Anyābhilāṣitāśūnyaṁ jñāna-karmādy-anāvṛtam, ānukūlyena kṛṣṇānuśīlanam'' ([[vanisource:CC Madhya 19.167|CC Madhya 19.167]]). |
