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| <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> | | <div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2> |
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| <div class="heading">He is Kṛṣṇa Himself, but He is representing as guru. | | <div class="heading">He is Kṛṣṇa Himself, but He is representing as guru. |
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| <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Talk with Bob Cohen -- February 27-29, 1972, Mayapura|Talk with Bob Cohen -- February 27-29, 1972, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;">Bob: Lord Caitanya, He was not a guru, He was different than guru?</p> | | |
| <p>Prabhupāda: He's guru.</p>
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| <p>Bob: Lord Caitanya, He was a different type of guru than you were?</p>
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| <p>Prabhupāda: No, no. Guru cannot be different types. All gurus are of one type.</p>
| | <span class="link">[[Vanisource:Talk with Bob Cohen -- February 27-29, 1972, Mayapura|Talk with Bob Cohen -- February 27-29, 1972, Mayapura]]: </span><div class="text"><p style="display: inline;"> |
| <p>Bob: But He was, was He also an incarnation at the same...?</p>
| | Bob: Lord Caitanya, He was not a ''guru''; He was different than ''guru''? |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes, He is Kṛṣṇa Himself, but He is representing as guru.</p>
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| <p>Bob: I see.</p>
| | Prabhupāda: He's ''guru''. |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes.</p>
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| <p>Bob: And then.</p>
| | Bob: Lord Caitanya, He was a different type of ''guru'' than you were? |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Because Kṛṣṇa, as God, He demanded that sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66|BG 18.66]]). But people misunderstood Him. Therefore Kṛṣṇa again came as guru and taught people how to surrender to Kṛṣṇa.</p>
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| <p>Śyāmasundara: Doesn't He say in the Bhagavad-gītā, "I am the spiritual master"?</p>
| | Prabhupāda: No, no. No. ''Guru'' cannot be different types. All ''gurus'' are of one type. |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Huh?</p>
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| <p>Śyāmasundara: Doesn't Kṛṣṇa say "I am the spiritual master"? In Bhagavad-gītā it says...</p>
| | Bob: But He was . . . was He also an incarnation at the same . . .? |
| <p>Prabhupāda: Yes, He's the original spiritual master. Because He has accepted spiritual master of Arjuna. So what is the difficulty? Śiṣyas te 'haṁ śādhi māṁ tvāṁ prapannam ([[Vanisource:BG 2.7|BG 2.7]]). "I am your disciple." So unless He's spiritual master, how Arjuna becomes His disciple? He's the original guru. Tene brahma hṛdā ādi-kavaye, in the Bhāgavata. That He gave instruction about Vedas in the heart of Brahmā. So He's guru.</p>
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| | Prabhupāda: Yes, He is Kṛṣṇa Himself, but He is representing as ''guru''. |
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| | Bob: I, I see. |
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| | Prabhupāda: Yes. |
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| | Bob: And then . . . |
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| | Prabhupāda: Because Kṛṣṇa, as God, He demanded that ''sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja'' ([[Vanisource:BG 18.66 (1972)|BG 18.66]]). But people misunderstood Him. Therefore Kṛṣṇa again came as ''guru'' and taught people how to surrender to Kṛṣṇa. |
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| | Śyāmasundara: Doesn't He say in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'', "I am the spiritual master"? |
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| | Prabhupāda: Huh? |
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| | Śyāmasundara: Doesn't Kṛṣṇa say: "I am the spiritual master"? In ''Bhagavad-gītā'' it says . . . |
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| | Prabhupāda: Yes, He's the original spiritual master, because He was accepted spiritual master of Arjuna. So what is the difficulty? ''Śiṣyas te 'haṁ śādhi māṁ tvāṁ prapannam'' ([[Vanisource:BG 2.7 (1972)|BG 2.7]]). "I am Your disciple." So unless He's spiritual master, how Arjuna becomes His disciple? He's the original ''guru''. ''Tene brahma hṛdā ādi-kavaye'', in the ''Bhāgavata'', that He gave instruction about ''Vedas'' in the heart of Brahmā. So He's ''guru''. |