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<h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<h3>1968 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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He was great logician, Caitanya Mahāprabhu. In His boyhood He would ask His contemporary friends to argue with Him on a subject matter, and He'll defeat him. And again He'll establish it. The very point on which He defeated His friend, He'll again establish it, and again nullify it. He was so talented. His name was therefore, other name, was Nimāi Paṇḍita. One name is Gaurasundara, another name is Nimāi Paṇḍita.
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[[Vanisource:680826 - Conversation - Montreal|Conversation -- August 26, 1968, Montreal]]:
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Prabhupāda: So your question, Rukmiṇī's question, Lord Caitanya's opulence . . . there are six kinds of opulences: richness, then fame, strength, influence, beauty, education and renunciation. So He exhibited all these six. He was very beautiful; therefore His name is Gaurasundara. Very beautiful—tall and stout and strong.

There was no comparison of His beauty at that time, He was so beautiful, fair complexion. This time He did not appear in black complexion, because people after fair complexion. So . . . and son of a very respectable ''brahmin'' family, and very highly educated.

His scholarly manifestation you'll find in the explanation of one verse:

:''ātmārāmāś ca munayo''
:''nirgranthā apy urukrame''
:''kurvanty ahaitukīṁ bhaktim''
:''ittham-bhūta-guṇo hariḥ''
:([[Vanisource:SB 1.7.10|SB 1.7.10]])

This verse was twice explained, two times explained: once before Sanātana Gosvāmī and once before Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya. Sārvabhauma Bhaṭṭācārya was considered at that time to be the greatest learned man in India. At that time ''nyāya-śāstra'', logic . . . amongst the learned scholar logic is the greatest weapon to get victory over his opponent. So learned scholar is always a very learned scholar in logic, ''nyāya-śāstra''.

So this logic was taught in Bihar, Dharvanga. India, in different parts of India, different kinds of education was imparted. In Benares, the Mayavāda philosophy was very prominent. In Dharvanga, logic was very prominent. In Navadvīpa, philosophy was very prominent, and ''nyāya'' also. Similarly, in Bharampura . . . (indistinct) . . . there are many places, just like at the present moment there are many places, university. 

So He was great logician, Caitanya Mahāprabhu. In His boyhood He would ask His contemporary friends to argue with Him on a subject matter, and He'll defeat him. And again He'll establish it. The very point on which He defeated His friend, He'll again establish it, and again nullify it. He was so talented. His name was therefore, other name, was Nimāi Paṇḍita.

One name is Gaurasundara, another name is Nimāi Paṇḍita. ''Paṇḍita'' means very learned scholar. And that is not hearsay, that because we are devotees we are speaking of Lord Caitanya very learned scholar. The evidence is there in the explanation of ''ātmārāma śloka'' ([[Vanisource:SB 1.7.10|SB 1.7.10]]). He has explained that ''śloka'' in sixty-four different ways, one verse. He has described one word, ''ātmārāma'', in eleven ways. Similarly ''munayo, nirgranthāḥ, urukrama, bhakti''. Each word He has enunciated in so many ways.
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