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<div id="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="section" sec_index="5" parent="compilation" text="Conversations and Morning Walks"><h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<div id="1976_Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" class="sub_section" sec_index="9" parent="Conversations_and_Morning_Walks" text="1976 Conversations and Morning Walks"><h3>1976 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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<div class="heading">This Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement means vairāgya-vidyā, to become detestful to this material world. Because we are not becoming detestful. The karmīs, they are more and more becoming entangled: "Give me this, give me that, give me that"; ultimately, "Give me the post of Brahmā," "Give me the post of Indra." So their business is simply "give me." So they are karmīs.
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Morning Walk -- January 13, 1976, Calcutta|Morning Walk -- January 13, 1976, Calcutta]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">This Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement means vairāgya-vidyā, to become detestful to this material world. Because we are not becoming detestful. The karmīs, they are more and more becoming entangled: "Give me this, give me that, give me that"; ultimately, "Give me the post of Brahmā," "Give me the post of Indra." So their business is simply "give me." So they are karmīs. And jñānīs, when they are disgusted with this asking... They are also asking, but they are asking in a finer way, that "We shall become one with Viṣṇu. Why shall I ask?" He's asking. He's asking, "Make me one," but in a subtle way. He's also beggar. And yogīs, they’re also asking, "Give me this mystic power. I shall manufacture gold and delude this poor conditioned soul," and advertise, "I have become God." These are third-class yogīs. First-class yogīs, they do not want. They, although get this power, like this, they do not utilize it; they simply, dhyāna avasthita-tad-gatena manasā paśyanti yaṁ yoginaḥ ([[Vanisource:SB 12.13.1|SB 12.13.1]]). That is their (indistinct): always meditating and seeing Kṛṣṇa. </p>
:yoginām api sarveṣāṁ
:mad-gatenāntarātmanā
:śraddhāvān bhajate yo māṁ
:sa me yuktatamo
:([[Vanisource:BG 6.47|BG 6.47]])
<p>He's actually yogī, that always trying to seize the lotus feet of Kṛṣṇa, so that gradually they’ll be promoted to the pure devotional stage. </p>
<p>So unless one is situated in pure devotional stage, the perfection will be not be there. Mām upetya kaunteya duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam ([[Vanisource:BG 8.15|BG 8.15]]). Even if he becomes a very big yogī, he has to undergo suffering, duḥkhālayam aśāśvatam. This world is like that. For practicing this haṭha-yoga, it requires much labor. It is not so easy. They are thinking that they have got this power, yogī, but it is exactly like if you want to become high-court judge, if you want to become prime minister—it is not so easy. You have to work very hard. Nobody gets all these posts so easily like (indistinct). No. One has to work very hard. Duḥkhālayam, you have to undergo. You want some very exalted post in this material, either as yogī, or karmī or jñānī, it requires the hard labor. But a devotee, because he does not want anything like the karmī, jñānī and yogī, for them, viśvaṁ pūrṇaṁ sukhāyate. The whole material world is happy. Viśvaṁ pūrṇaṁ sukhāyate.</p>
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